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Cord attempts to storm IEBC offices
tycho
#271 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 8:39:26 PM
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The possibility of free and fair elections disappeared completely in 2007. What's happening now is a vain attempt at resucitating a corpse. We're stuck in shenanigans and chaos till a new system is created with a new political spirit and philosophy.


washiku
#272 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 9:33:54 PM
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harrydre wrote:
change of tone, Bupamba writes to the president.

With no backing from the west,wWameona wataumia bure...they are on their own. The Gorilla tactics have no place in today's politics

Follow the law...curious how UK will respond to this.


In my opinion, he should accept the dialogue request. Gentlemen solve problems through dialogue.
rurinjaa
#273 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:16:26 AM
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accept dialogue . . . you don't negotiate with someone who is in a weaker position. RAO must re-engineer and strategize this thing is going nowhere and writing to UK is from a position of weakness. Note I say RAO not CORD.
kaka2za
#274 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:52:14 AM
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Historically ,change in Kenya happens only when the mountain meets the lake. 1963,early 90s,2002,Nusu mkate
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
hardwood
#275 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:20:29 AM
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hardwood wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
TNA to hold parallel demonstrations....


Or is it Jubilee


I told you people tutaonana omundu khumundu.


Nilisema...

http://www.the-star.co.k...-counter-cords_c1348108

C&P

‘We have no partisan interest in defending IEBC, but our supporters will come

out to defend constitutionalism,’ says TNA secretary general Onyango Oloo

The ruling Jubilee coalition is planning pro-IEBC protests in Nairobi next week to counter Cord’s demonstrations against the electoral commission.

The planned protests are a clear indication that Jubilee is rallying behind the Isaack Hassan-led team to oversee next year’s general election, despite growing dissent.

TNA secretary general Onyango Oloo, who is involved in coordinating the activities, yesterday told off the opposition leaders over their anti-IEBC demos.

He said Jubilee supporters “will come out to face them man-to-man” on Monday.

“Let it be known that we are the custodians of the rule of law and sovereignty, and if they want to know who has more supporters we shall bring them out,” Oloo said.

“I call upon our supporters to come out and face Cord supporters man-to-man. We have no partisan interest in defending IEBC, but our supporters will come out to defend constitutionalism.”
Risasi Sufuri
#276 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:34:59 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
TNA to hold parallel demonstrations....


Or is it Jubilee


Jubilee should not fall into this trap....they should just ignore this old tactics.

No need for dialogue. The occupant of house on the hill should just refer the matter to Parliament to amend the law. Otherwise, it would form an adverse precedent where someone wakes one day calls for disbandment of a body.

Muheani
#277 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 8:43:47 AM
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Risasi Sufuri wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
TNA to hold parallel demonstrations....


Or is it Jubilee


Jubilee should not fall into this trap....they should just ignore this old tactics.

No need for dialogue. The occupant of house on the hill should just refer the matter to Parliament to amend the law. Otherwise, it would form an adverse precedent where someone wakes one day calls for disbandment of a body.




I agree upto that point
Ngalaka
#278 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:04:22 AM
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washiku wrote:
harrydre wrote:
change of tone, Bupamba writes to the president.

With no backing from the west,wWameona wataumia bure...they are on their own. The Gorilla tactics have no place in today's politics

Follow the law...curious how UK will respond to this.


In my opinion, he should accept the dialogue request. Gentlemen solve problems through dialogue.

In civilised society the right thing to do is to embrace dialogue when it is requested.

There are certain caveats to this though; those so requesting need to demonstrate genuineness, sincerity and reasonableness. The agenda and feasibility on path to resolution have to make sense.

The matter at hand here is disbanding IEBC and constituting a new one.

What is clear on the outset is that this is an exercise aimed at using a route other than what the law requires – disregard the law and use alternative means! The constitution is less than a decade old.
None of those in active politics today, can claim to have pushed for the adoption of the constitution more than Raila. In fact he got exactly what he wanted against the wish of many in PNU who wanted some improvements and went ahead to reserve and pay for hotel space in Naivasha for that purposed but their effort were spurned by him. Any way that’s a different affair.

The million dollar question is why don’t CORD want to use the laid down procedures in law to achieve their goal!!
Your guess is as good as mine but I suspect it’s because they cannot raise the numbers nor prove a case in court! So they resort to alternative means! Doesn’t that amount to short circuiting democracy! In democracy you either put up in the polls, gather the requisite numbers or you........

If in this case we resort to bypassing the laid down structures(Cord wants dialogue involving civil society et al),where else will similar prescriptions be applied.
Think of the can of worms this opens. The next day Uhuru may decide to invite some cronies of his and then proceed to make some far reaching changes.

Bear in mind that this is the second time this term, that CORD is asking for “dialogue” in unclear circumstances.

I am not a jubilee supporter but I believe the opposition should aspire and demonstrate themselves to be better than those in power. They should assert themselves as sticklers to the law and hold the Government to account on its record in adhering to the law, not encouraging it to go to bed with it to circumvent the law.

Cord should be prepping themselves and going round in the Country to woo the electorate to put them in power in the next election cycle. Given the issues that Jubille have sullied themselves with – skyrocketing corruption, economic squeeze on the common guy on the streets etc, a serious, sellable and well organised opposition could beat them on the ballot.

But the open secret is that Cord as it stands today have snowball’s chance in hell of making any headway. That is probably why they have elected to engage in the shenanigans we are seeing – demonstrations, pleading for a meeting – to be hosted by the Government where the protocols et al will be controlled by state house!

Such an opposition does not deserve my support. It is batter to support Prof Ole Kiyapi.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
maka
#279 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:06:22 AM
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harrydre
#280 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:49:07 PM
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hardwood wrote:
hardwood wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
TNA to hold parallel demonstrations....


Or is it Jubilee


I told you people tutaonana omundu khumundu.


Nilisema...

http://www.the-star.co.k...-counter-cords_c1348108

C&P

‘We have no partisan interest in defending IEBC, but our supporters will come

out to defend constitutionalism,’ says TNA secretary general Onyango Oloo

The ruling Jubilee coalition is planning pro-IEBC protests in Nairobi next week to counter Cord’s demonstrations against the electoral commission.

The planned protests are a clear indication that Jubilee is rallying behind the Isaack Hassan-led team to oversee next year’s general election, despite growing dissent.

TNA secretary general Onyango Oloo, who is involved in coordinating the activities, yesterday told off the opposition leaders over their anti-IEBC demos.

He said Jubilee supporters “will come out to face them man-to-man” on Monday.

“Let it be known that we are the custodians of the rule of law and sovereignty, and if they want to know who has more supporters we shall bring them out,” Oloo said.

“I call upon our supporters to come out and face Cord supporters man-to-man. We have no partisan interest in defending IEBC, but our supporters will come out to defend constitutionalism.”


Man to Man let it be.
i.am.back!!!!
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