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ngapat
#191 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:39:56 PM
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Spikes
#192 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:42:51 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
moneydust
#193 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:56:28 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.


For this one I think something drastic needs to happen for the price to decidedly go below the rights price
After the rights the free floating shares will be around 2Billion and a significant amount of this will be held by institutions.I therefore dont see the massive oversupply of shares your talking about.
nashx
#194 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:06:25 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.

I remember when people used to say safaricom has too many shares in the market...this is a buy for me and i will exercise my rights...the business is fundamentally strong and a steal at even 7 Bob...funny the market didn't panic as much as I expected today...chances are it won't drop below 7 Bob.....the only fear i have is if in the near future there's a change of management due to poor political appointees who may mismanage it.otherwise the current management is strong for me and will help realize the true value of kengen and it's businesss model
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Spikes
#195 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:17:35 PM
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nashx wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.

I remember when people used to say safaricom has too many shares in the market...this is a buy for me and i will exercise my rights...the business is fundamentally strong and a steal at even 7 Bob...funny the market didn't panic as much as I expected today...chances are it won't drop below 7 Bob.....the only fear i have is if in the near future there's a change of management due to poor political appointees who may mismanage it.otherwise the current management is strong for me and will help realize the true value of kengen and it's businesss model


You are playing around the epicentre of middle east earthquake.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
nashx
#196 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:28:44 PM
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Spikes wrote:
nashx wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.

I remember when people used to say safaricom has too many shares in the market...this is a buy for me and i will exercise my rights...the business is fundamentally strong and a steal at even 7 Bob...funny the market didn't panic as much as I expected today...chances are it won't drop below 7 Bob.....the only fear i have is if in the near future there's a change of management due to poor political appointees who may mismanage it.otherwise the current management is strong for me and will help realize the true value of kengen and it's businesss model


You are playing around the epicentre of middle east earthquake.

I guess time in the market will tell...if I'm wrong there will be a good lesson to learn...if I'm right then...I will be smiling to the bank. Full disclosure...My weighted buying price is 6.5 before exercising the rights...I am looking to stay in the counter 2 to 5 years unless of course something shifts significantly with its fundamentals
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sparkly
#197 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 10:43:34 PM
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nashx wrote:
Spikes wrote:
nashx wrote:
Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
moneydust wrote:
h2s wrote:
Why would one buy the rights at above the prevailing market price of the share? Two more trading days and the price will be lower than 6.55.


What would be the rationale for the share to trade below the rights price?
Too much pessimism around..


We've seen this too Many times. Today the price dropped 10%. One thing about money is that it's clever and it thinks about making more money.

Trust me any company doing a killer rights issue does not have its shareholders best interests at heart. Otherwise they wouldn't dilute shareholders like that. This is more of an IPO than a rights issue. Do the math



After the rights exercise have released too much shares into the market, a free fall is likely. It will be a good time to buy.

I remember when people used to say safaricom has too many shares in the market...this is a buy for me and i will exercise my rights...the business is fundamentally strong and a steal at even 7 Bob...funny the market didn't panic as much as I expected today...chances are it won't drop below 7 Bob.....the only fear i have is if in the near future there's a change of management due to poor political appointees who may mismanage it.otherwise the current management is strong for me and will help realize the true value of kengen and it's businesss model


You are playing around the epicentre of middle east earthquake.

I guess time in the market will tell...if I'm wrong there will be a good lesson to learn...if I'm right then...I will be smiling to the bank. Full disclosure...My weighted buying price is 6.5 before exercising the rights...I am looking to stay in the counter 2 to 5 years unless of course something shifts significantly with its fundamentals


There will always be buyers and sellers in the market. Right now it's makes sense for someone to sell some at 8 and get back for rights at 6.55.

Whoever does not take up rights will be diluted in a big way.
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Ericsson
#198 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:14:29 AM
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Share price bouncing back.
It was going to be hard for the counter to go below the rights issue price.
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wukan
#199 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:38:14 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Share price bouncing back.
It was going to be hard for the counter to go below the rights issue price.


PPT actionPray The only thing to buy in kengen is the cashflow. I want to see the IM to determine the cash flow per share. I think the cash flow per share will be less than the offer price of 6.55/=. 70:30 debt:equity is crazy considering the strengthening yen
sparkly
#200 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:44:37 PM
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wukan wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price bouncing back.
It was going to be hard for the counter to go below the rights issue price.


PPT actionPray The only thing to buy in kengen is the cashflow. I want to see the IM to determine the cash flow per share. I think the cash flow per share will be less than the offer price of 6.55/=. 70:30 debt:equity is crazy considering the strengthening yen


This has been discussed and settled. Kengen recovers Forex losses from KPLC
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