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symbols wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based  In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. Do you have any objective way of making this conclusion? The Obama administration has been spying on Heads of State of allies, the UN, running illegal operations in other countries without their knowledge. Do you think this makes the US the darling of the rest of the world? Have you noticed how he is trying to entice back African countries who have en mass moved to the East? My friend, Africa was always pro-America and if you cannot keep Africa on your side, who can you keep? The spying issue was just hot air. It was not an Obama idea first of all. All powerful countries do it. In fact most countries envy the capacity Americans have to spy. Consider this: 1. It keeps the Americans and world safe. 2. The Americans can get advance information when negotiating trade deals. So you are saying it is OK to tap into the telephones of heads of foreign states? And you are also saying this tapping is what is keeping the world safe? At the same time you believe that this tapping is what gives Americans an edge during trade negotiations? If you can't see the value of espionage in preventing terrorist attacks and trade negotiations then I can't help you. Can there be democracy if you know what the citizens are thinking?Won't you just script the perfect pitch/candidate? You must be an American Ole Lenku. Amaumepewa ninio. WHO DARES WINS
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marko wrote:symbols wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. Do you have any objective way of making this conclusion? The Obama administration has been spying on Heads of State of allies, the UN, running illegal operations in other countries without their knowledge. Do you think this makes the US the darling of the rest of the world? Have you noticed how he is trying to entice back African countries who have en mass moved to the East? My friend, Africa was always pro-America and if you cannot keep Africa on your side, who can you keep? The spying issue was just hot air. It was not an Obama idea first of all. All powerful countries do it. In fact most countries envy the capacity Americans have to spy. Consider this: 1. It keeps the Americans and world safe. 2. The Americans can get advance information when negotiating trade deals. So you are saying it is OK to tap into the telephones of heads of foreign states? And you are also saying this tapping is what is keeping the world safe? At the same time you believe that this tapping is what gives Americans an edge during trade negotiations? If you can't see the value of espionage in preventing terrorist attacks and trade negotiations then I can't help you. Can there be democracy if you know what the citizens are thinking?Won't you just script the perfect pitch/candidate? You must be an American Ole Lenku. Amaumepewa ninio. How now? Just extending @Ole Lenku's line of thought.In theory democracy is a negotiation.
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In the non-digital world, you can be "spied" on as soon as you leave your house. However, whatever you do inside your house should be isolated.
In the digital world, you should expect to be "spied" on as soon as you connect with any other external digital object (phone calls, etc).
The question always remains on which spies we are willing to tolerate.
1. Government spies (we hate those), unless they are spying on someone else whom we either don't like or secretly suspect of being up to something bad
2. Social spies (our neighbours). We love and hate these in equal measure, don't we? i.e. we regularly spy on each other and quite a few people would be okay having spy equipment in their house that could monitor neighbours' / co-workers' / competitors' activities!!
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jmbada wrote:In the non-digital world, you can be "spied" on as soon as you leave your house. However, whatever you do inside your house should be isolated.
In the digital world, you should expect to be "spied" on as soon as you connect with any other external digital object (phone calls, etc).
The question always remains on which spies we are willing to tolerate.
1. Government spies (we hate those), unless they are spying on someone else whom we either don't like or secretly suspect of being up to something bad
2. Social spies (our neighbours). We love and hate these in equal measure, don't we? i.e. we regularly spy on each other and quite a few people would be okay having spy equipment in their house that could monitor neighbours' / co-workers' / competitors' activities!!
Imagine if Kenya had an aggressive espionage program before the westgate mall attack. Surely it could have been prevented considering how long they were in the country prior to the attack. Intelligence personnel would have caught wind of their activities and taken appropriate action. You cannot have complete privacy and security in this age of terrorism. We have to make tradeoffs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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rescueattack!Watermelon should forget Okoa Kenya and feed his people!! i.am.back!!!!
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