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CFC-Stanbic 2009
ProverB
#31 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:01:43 PM
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Fundaah wrote:
ProverB ...Im in currently not stocks ....I have no motivation to dig deeper for reasons why CFC is a buy ....but gut feeling tells me its a buy .. for those who are interested ...time will tell.....


ok.
On that note... i'm glad i stayed out. apart from Mukiha's approach..only hopes seem to justify buying..unfortunately that cannot be quantified into real cash.
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milken
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:34:47 PM
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Typical of South African companies operating in Kenya? Enter with a bang results wapi!
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sparkly
#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:39:58 PM
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ProverB wrote:
sparkly wrote:
ProverB wrote:
Teheheehehehhe..
I'm glad i stayed out.


@ProverB why laugh when you should be buying this distressed share! Bet against the market now and in One year you will be laughing all the way to the Bank ... Literary.


@sparkly... assuming we all have investment strategies... eg, low pe, growing eps..minimum ROE of 15% over several periods...etc.. define one that makes cfc a buy. please not banking on hopes that "one day it will do well".


Those assets can be put to some good use. Thats my reason period. May be the most undervalued of the medium banks based on the net assets. You are free to disagree.
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:50:13 PM
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I am in agreement with @proverB coz the management has show sub-par performance... I would rather buy NIC or DTB...
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mukiha
#35 Posted : Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:04:24 PM
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Interestingly resilient at 43
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ProverB
#36 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:52:26 AM
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@sparkly... Good Asset base vs Non performing management.... i think management has bigger weight on influencing share holder value. thus my anti cfc stand... except maybe for speculative reasons.. "the bigger fool theory"..where you can always sell at higher price to a less informed buyer.
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
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guru267
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:21:20 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Interestingly resilient at 43


the market must be pegging this years profit recovery against a recovery at the NSE...

another thing we must remember is that many of the costs were once off cost that wont appear on the P&L this year...
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ProverB
#38 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:29:41 AM
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guru267 wrote:
mukiha wrote:
Interestingly resilient at 43


the market must be pegging this years profit recovery against a recovery at the NSE...

another thing we must remember is that many of the costs were once off cost that wont appear on the P&L this year...



..may b its just because nobody really undestands whats goin on with cfc thus choosing to wait and see. I'd be apprehensive about assuming price behaviour as stamp of authority on company's overall performance. just me.
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
guru267
#39 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:20:25 AM
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ProverB wrote:
..may b its just because nobody really undestands whats goin on with cfc thus choosing to wait and see. I'd be apprehensive about assuming price behaviour as stamp of authority on company's overall performance. just me.


those who dont understand just choose not to... CFC might as well be put in the same bracket as investment banks when it comes to turn over and perfomance of the NSE.. almost all investment banks posted losses..

another thing is that they made it very clear that they had many once off costs that arose from expansion and improvement of banking facilities...

all these are not going to appear anywhere in this years results... couple this with improved economy and NSE... the rest will play itself out
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Deuteronomy 4:16
Fundaah
#40 Posted : Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:05:29 AM
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and today its at 44...
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