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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Just asking for a friend... WHICH PEV IS THIS THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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masukuma wrote:Just asking for a friend... WHICH PEV IS THIS THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT? This PEV is mainly imagined, even if at subconscious levels. The same way someone is subconsciously driven to relish 2005 referendum, 1997 IPPG, 2007 mass action and the results thereof with nostalgia, and subconsciously looks forward to recreate these past events as a stepping stone to achieve similar results…not knowing the ground may have shifted. So it’s immaterial to consider whether the PEV can happen or not. The problem is that all this nostalgia ends up creating a lot of problems for all of us.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:Indeed long time no see friend! where have uh been and what have you been up to? Long time, working from inside rather than fighting on wazua! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Indeed long time no see friend! where have uh been and what have you been up to? Long time, working from inside rather than fighting on wazua! Good to hear you're working from inside. Kindly give 'them' this piece of free advise: Even if IEBC were to bow to pressure and quit (quite unlikely as every other day dawns), the new commissioners would have to be appointed in accordance with the constitution, or else the constitution would have to be changed… And I wait for the day parliament will agree by 2/3 majority to change the constitution just coz someone wanted it, yet no iota of evidence among the commissioners ‘hounded out of office’ as it were was presented. To achieve such a feat, I think it would take Mganga from I don’t know where to ‘cast a spell’ and hoodwink everyone in parliament. You cannot have your cake and eat it. …as in hound IEBC out of office and then dictate how new ones will be appointed including terms of reference (someone’s done so already in the media). And by the way, tell him that the impression we are getting is that they supported the constitution because they thought they were going to be president and wield all these powers. Very revealing. Kindly tell them to present to Court (not necessarily parliament) REAL evidence of wrong doing by any commissioner or evidence of their unsuitability to hold office, and if everybody can see they are justified, we will join them in the push to form a tribunal. Any effort outside this is zero sum game.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Don't pull me from retirement omera, we are well aware of that like, one thing at a time....and the right phrase is; you can't eat your cake and have it!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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masukuma wrote:Just asking for a friend... WHICH PEV IS THIS THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT? Post Erection Vibrations! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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limanika wrote:Could these be the steps to 2017 PEV and collision govt thereafter?
Through demos and mass action, KURDI want IEBC Commissioners to get frustrated and quit on their own volition...
If this plan succeeds and once IEBC commissioners have been hounded out of office, KURDI will raise another tirade of dust. This time round, selection formula for picking new IEBC must be revisited, otherwise KURDI will not recognize the new commissioners. Another round of demos will start at that point.
If KURDI succeeds with these demos, political parties will be allowed to have representation amongst the commissioners
The commissioners chosen by KURDI would be die hard supporters and PARTISAN. If KURDI loses the 2017 election results, even genuinely, they will come out and announce to the whole world ‘how the results were rigged’ Molo ECK official style. And they will raise another tirade of dust. Even calling for civil disobedience. Western powers start weighing in and say coalition govt must be formed. Uhuru exits from the resultant 'collision govt' in 2022, KURDI Supremo who will have smarted from 2007-2013 mistakes goes on to rule for two terms, 2022-2032 mugabe style
So what to do?
IMHO IEBC should stay put. Giving in will open pandora’s box, and we will lose advantage to outsmart KURDI in subsequent outbursts.
The threat to boycott elections is an empty one (and very welcome indeed), in fact this will be welcome news even in cord strongholds since others will move in to fill the vacuum.
If KURDI were genuine, they would push for formation of tribunal against specific IEBC commissioners. As things stand, KURDI wants to arm twist everyone to have IEBC reconstituted. This in a very cunning manner whilst hiding cards under the table and without disclosing their entire motives. Giving in to any of these 'unconstitutional' excesses will be like the cow that accepts to be tied yet it's being taken to the slaughter house.
We can do / live with dwindling demos every other Monday going forward, but not another PEV and collision govt.
http://www.standardmedia...-kenyatta-on-iebc-talks
Ukianza kusikia dialogue hiyo ni mkate nusu. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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harrydre wrote:limanika wrote:Could these be the steps to 2017 PEV and collision govt thereafter?
Through demos and mass action, KURDI want IEBC Commissioners to get frustrated and quit on their own volition...
If this plan succeeds and once IEBC commissioners have been hounded out of office, KURDI will raise another tirade of dust. This time round, selection formula for picking new IEBC must be revisited, otherwise KURDI will not recognize the new commissioners. Another round of demos will start at that point.
If KURDI succeeds with these demos, political parties will be allowed to have representation amongst the commissioners
The commissioners chosen by KURDI would be die hard supporters and PARTISAN. If KURDI loses the 2017 election results, even genuinely, they will come out and announce to the whole world ‘how the results were rigged’ Molo ECK official style. And they will raise another tirade of dust. Even calling for civil disobedience. Western powers start weighing in and say coalition govt must be formed. Uhuru exits from the resultant 'collision govt' in 2022, KURDI Supremo who will have smarted from 2007-2013 mistakes goes on to rule for two terms, 2022-2032 mugabe style
So what to do?
IMHO IEBC should stay put. Giving in will open pandora’s box, and we will lose advantage to outsmart KURDI in subsequent outbursts.
The threat to boycott elections is an empty one (and very welcome indeed), in fact this will be welcome news even in cord strongholds since others will move in to fill the vacuum.
If KURDI were genuine, they would push for formation of tribunal against specific IEBC commissioners. As things stand, KURDI wants to arm twist everyone to have IEBC reconstituted. This in a very cunning manner whilst hiding cards under the table and without disclosing their entire motives. Giving in to any of these 'unconstitutional' excesses will be like the cow that accepts to be tied yet it's being taken to the slaughter house.
We can do / live with dwindling demos every other Monday going forward, but not another PEV and collision govt.
http://www.standardmedia...-kenyatta-on-iebc-talks
Ukianza kusikia dialogue hiyo ni mkate nusu. Bottom line is that someone has decided this is the last viable stab 4 pork and come rain come sunshine he has to make it. So one scenario, jubilee agrees to appoint commissioners the he wants, then he uses them to rig or make a case for colission govt. Scenario 2 jubilee declines his proposals, then he prempts the outcome, making a case for collision govt again. What a situation!
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