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Ericsson
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2016 10:15:15 AM
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@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.
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iris
#2 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2016 12:36:43 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along
murchr
#3 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2016 3:33:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


IoT is nothing luxury. Having a phone is luxurious but about 80% of Kenyans own one. If you listen to Bob when he's presenting results, he always mentions the grown in smart phones right? He never says why but here is my guess.

Broadband Internet has become more widely available, the cost of connecting is decreasing, more devices are being created with Wi-Fi capabilities and sensors built into them, technology costs are going down, and smartphone penetration is sky-rocketing. This combination is creating a “perfect storm” for the IoT

IoT is basically connecting devices with each other. Imagine switching on your lights at home with your phone, recording TV programs in your DVR when you are not at home, that is already happening with Samsung devices. Recording exercise movements with wearables (I mentioned masukumas AfyaBand).

Uchumi CEO said in one interview that as technology changes, they are going to be looking more at target marketing. For example, right now, your bank details is available on phone right? So when you walk in the super market, as you look at the various tvs or fridges your phone is talking to these devices, checking your net-worth (bank details), if you can afford then, the for the next couple of days, the advertising that will be popping on your computer - phone (remember they are connected) will be more about this item of better alternative (if your wallet can afford) or cheaper alternatives (if your pockets are small).

IoT is already in use and will be more in use in Smart cities....i can go on and on...but do you get it....?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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vonmises
#4 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:34:24 PM
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iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.
murchr
#5 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2016 7:15:46 PM
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vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#6 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:33:47 AM
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murchr wrote:
vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.


Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg
1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others.
2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter.
3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food.
4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever.
5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 3:47:24 PM
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sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.


Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg
1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it?


2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter.
This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything

3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that


4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock.
5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money.


1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi.

2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet.

3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda.

Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW*****
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kediveKed
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 6:58:43 PM
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iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


Internet connectivity in kenya is poor if not mediocre. mainly because there was poor network planning by safaricom and some places are not well connected. Attended some Internet of things forum at iHub and some tech company called BRCK - were testing some IoT devices (tablets that can be used by kids in marginalised areas for education) and the tests were marred by issues related to poor network. Also power was be a problem.

We need to invest in reliable power and ensure the country will be well connected to reap maximum benefits from Iot.
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 1:59:10 AM
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kediveKed wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


Internet connectivity in kenya is poor if not mediocre. mainly because there was poor network planning by safaricom and some places are not well connected. Attended some Internet of things forum at iHub and some tech company called BRCK - were testing some IoT devices (tablets that can be used by kids in marginalised areas for education) and the tests were marred by issues related to poor network. Also power was be a problem.

We need to invest in reliable power and ensure the country will be well connected to reap maximum benefits from Iot.

It will happen.
Safaricom has rolled out 4G in Nairobi and Mombasa. Soon 4G will expand to major towns.
Furthermore, cables are being laid between and within towns all over Kenya.
KPLC and Safaricom are collaborating on providing KPLC customers with 'last mile' solutions for internet access.
There will always be someone without great access but connecting 80% of Kenyans with 3G (or better) is a possibility by 2020.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#10 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 6:45:14 AM
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murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.


Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg
1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it?


2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter.
This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything

3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that


4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock.
5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money.


1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi.

2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet.

3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda.

Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW*****


@murchr you are deliberately missing my point. That IoT is real but for 20% who become smart, 80% will remain analogue. For every new technology introduced, people will use 20% of what they pay for but 80% is technology forced upon them, they pay for but don't use.

Sort of how computer makers keep on upgrading processor speed and memory yet most domestic consumer use computers for word processing, spreadsheets and an occasional movie.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#11 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 8:05:11 AM
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sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.


Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg
1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it?


2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter.
This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything

3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that


4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock.
5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money.


1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi.

2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet.

3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda.

Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW*****


@murchr you are deliberately missing my point. That IoT is real but for 20% who become smart, 80% will remain analogue. For every new technology introduced, people will use 20% of what they pay for but 80% is technology forced upon them, they pay for but don't use.

Sort of how computer makers keep on upgrading processor speed and memory yet most domestic consumer use computers for word processing, spreadsheets and an occasional movie.


Analog guys are disappearing with age my friend. Your kids may not be using paper and ink but laptops and tablets

I think you've totally missed the whole idea. Stop thinking bundles. Think solutions towards efficiency.


When the internet began the first wave was (connection between networks) PCs were the only gadgets of connection (WWW). YoY the sale of PCs has been going down because tablets and smart phones have taken over right?.... Networks were communicating to each other and sending out radio frequencies.

Then the second wave came in, the IoP (Internet of People) connecting people, 80% of the population is connected either on email, phone, facebook, or any other exciting app that exists. Its with this wave that the internet USERS exploded am I wrong?

The third wave is the connection of everyTHING in our digital world, The potential is explosive because we carry with us a gadget that has Near Field Communication. We connect via Wifi, bluetooth, cloud so on and so forth.

Let me assume you have an android. If I was close to you, my android would be communicating with yours, if you have your bluetooth on, they (the droids) can see each other and identify themselves.

Example, 1. if you are in your 30s you definately have a smartphone, perhaps a car, with a GPS powered gadget, possibly your phone, or some screen attached to your car. U might set the GPS in your car/phone to tell you how traffic is flowing on the road to your destination..this is your choice ofcourse, you might choose not to, but if you can get technology to give you information of which roads are congested or where an accident has been reported, wouldn't you want to be in the know and maybe opt for a different route?

Example 2. You walk in Uchumi with your android and as you admire a certain fridge, your phone and the sensors of the fridge have already communicated and shared data. Your phone is already a custodian of your money data, so a quick comparison is done btn the price tag and your worth and like magic, the device realizes you can afford it, so in the next few days, what you peruse will have the fridge advert begging you to take it home. kinda like when you google stuff That's the future of advertising - Target marketing.

The IoT is already here, the uptake has already started simple apps are letting you know that you need to top up on your electricity tokens, in the future, applications will suggest on how you'd save those tokens by eg switching on lights at particular times of managing overloads with your phone...in 2014 Samsung announced that all the items they would produce hence forth were going to be IoT enabled.

Lets not bog down this thread,. The NSE has bottomed

smile
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#12 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:05:37 AM
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murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
sparkly wrote:
murchr wrote:
vonmises wrote:
iris wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along


a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.


You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without.


Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg
1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it?


2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter.
This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything

3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that


4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock.
5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money.


1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi.

2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet.

3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda.

Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW*****


@murchr you are deliberately missing my point. That IoT is real but for 20% who become smart, 80% will remain analogue. For every new technology introduced, people will use 20% of what they pay for but 80% is technology forced upon them, they pay for but don't use.

Sort of how computer makers keep on upgrading processor speed and memory yet most domestic consumer use computers for word processing, spreadsheets and an occasional movie.


Analog guys are disappearing with age my friend. Your kids may not be using paper and ink but laptops and tablets

I think you've totally missed the whole idea. Stop thinking bundles. Think solutions towards efficiency.


When the internet began the first wave was (connection between networks) PCs were the only gadgets of connection (WWW). YoY the sale of PCs has been going down because tablets and smart phones have taken over right?.... Networks were communicating to each other and sending out radio frequencies.

Then the second wave came in, the IoP (Internet of People) connecting people, 80% of the population is connected either on email, phone, facebook, or any other exciting app that exists. Its with this wave that the internet USERS exploded am I wrong?

The third wave is the connection of everyTHING in our digital world, The potential is explosive because we carry with us a gadget that has Near Field Communication. We connect via WLAN, bluetooth, cloud so on and so forth.

Let me assume you have an android. If I was close to you, my android would be communicating with yours, if you have your bluetooth on, they (the droids) can see each other and identify themselves.

Example, 1. if you are in your 30s you definately have a smartphone, perhaps a car, with a GPS powered gadget, possibly your phone, or some screen attached to your car. U might set the GPS in your car/phone to tell you how traffic is flowing on the road to your destination..this is your choice ofcourse, you might choose not to, but if you can get technology to give you information of which roads are congested or where an accident has been reported, wouldn't you want to be in the know and maybe opt for a different route?

Example 2. You walk in Uchumi with your android and as you admire a certain fridge, your phone and the sensors of the fridge have already communicated and shared data. Your phone is already a custodian of your money data, so a quick comparison is done btn the price tag and your worth and like magic, the device realizes you can afford it, so in the next few days, what you peruse will have the fridge advert begging you to take it home. kinda like when you google stuff That's the future of advertising - Target marketing.

The IoT is already here, the uptake has already started simple apps are letting you know that you need to top up on your electricity tokens, in the future, applications will suggest on how you'd save those tokens by eg switching on lights at particular times of managing overloads with your phone...in 2014 Samsung announced that all the items they would produce hence forth were going to be IoT enabled.

Lets not bog down this thread,. The NSE has bottomed

smile


All the tech you speak so futuristically is was available yesterday. Business and Business to Business (B2B) automation is very high eg the scheduling softwares for the Japanese bullet trains, e-commerce software at Amazon, the modern production line in virtually all industries, the mobile switching engine at Safcom, the software that runs our power grid are out of this world. That Consumer tech is however influenced more by fashion, trends and daily conveniences rather than efficiency and cost saving. Let us differentiate the two.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#13 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:47:14 AM
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sparkly wrote:


All the tech you speak so futuristically is was available yesterday. Business and Business to Business (B2B) automation is very high eg the scheduling softwares for the Japanese bullet trains, e-commerce software at Amazon, the modern production line in virtually all industries, the mobile switching engine at Safcom, the software that runs our power grid are out of this world. That Consumer tech is however influenced more by fashion, trends and daily conveniences rather than efficiency and cost saving. Let us differentiate the two.


You are still very far from getting it if B2B e-commerce is what came to mind. Read my examples and conceptualize

Then watch this if you can spare afew minutes



http://bigstory.ap.org/a...al-metal-driverless-cars
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#14 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:52:25 PM
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@Admin,

If you can please snip out the discussion of internet of things from the thread "How to tell NSE has bottomed out" to a new thread on IOT in the Market - Technical section.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sparkly
#15 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:09:23 PM
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murchr wrote:
[quote=sparkly]

All the tech you speak so futuristically is was available yesterday. Business and Business to Business (B2B) automation is very high eg the scheduling softwares for the Japanese bullet trains, e-commerce software at Amazon, the modern production line in virtually all industries, the mobile switching engine at Safcom, the software that runs our power grid are out of this world. That Consumer tech is however influenced more by fashion, trends and daily conveniences rather than efficiency and cost saving. Let us differentiate the two.


You are still very far from getting it if B2B e-commerce is what came to mind. Read my examples and conceptualize

Then watch this if you can spare afew minutes



http://bigstory.ap.org/a...l-metal-driverless-cars[/quote]

Let me signoff, I see my fridge is calling me.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:03:28 PM
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Thanks Admin.

@Sparky, Laughing out loudly You will not be talking to your fridge rather, the fridge will be communicating with other devices with sensors to either run on "Safe Mode" so as to reduce the energy consumption because the electricity tokens you have might run out. A message might also be sent to your phone to alert you that you are about to run out of electricity.


1. Samsung has joined Microsoft and Amazon offering cloud services for IOT devices

2. Intel laid off 12000 employees who mainly dealt with the manufacture of PC chips and their focus is now on 5G technology, cloud computing

The wearables "fad" has not caught up well with Kenyans but if/when it does, insurance companies might offer incentives to those taking care of their health.

I don't know what direction the "Sema Doc" Safaricom service will take but imagine the analytics the service would provide to diabetics who take their blood sugar on daily basis...that data can be very vital for both the patient and doctor.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#17 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2016 10:17:33 AM
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murchr wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


IoT is nothing luxury. Having a phone is luxurious but about 80% of Kenyans own one. If you listen to Bob when he's presenting results, he always mentions the grown in smart phones right? He never says why but here is my guess.

Broadband Internet has become more widely available, the cost of connecting is decreasing, more devices are being created with Wi-Fi capabilities and sensors built into them, technology costs are going down, and smartphone penetration is sky-rocketing. This combination is creating a “perfect storm” for the IoT

IoT is basically connecting devices with each other. Imagine switching on your lights at home with your phone, recording TV programs in your DVR when you are not at home, that is already happening with Samsung devices. Recording exercise movements with wearables (I mentioned masukumas AfyaBand).

Uchumi CEO said in one interview that as technology changes, they are going to be looking more at target marketing. For example, right now, your bank details is available on phone right? So when you walk in the super market, as you look at the various tvs or fridges your phone is talking to these devices, checking your net-worth (bank details), if you can afford then, the for the next couple of days, the advertising that will be popping on your computer - phone (remember they are connected) will be more about this item of better alternative (if your wallet can afford) or cheaper alternatives (if your pockets are small).

IoT is already in use and will be more in use in Smart cities....i can go on and on...but do you get it....?

which phone/app/bank/idiot user allows their phone to share their bank details with supermarkets?
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#18 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2016 12:29:41 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


IoT is nothing luxury. Having a phone is luxurious but about 80% of Kenyans own one. If you listen to Bob when he's presenting results, he always mentions the grown in smart phones right? He never says why but here is my guess.

Broadband Internet has become more widely available, the cost of connecting is decreasing, more devices are being created with Wi-Fi capabilities and sensors built into them, technology costs are going down, and smartphone penetration is sky-rocketing. This combination is creating a “perfect storm” for the IoT

IoT is basically connecting devices with each other. Imagine switching on your lights at home with your phone, recording TV programs in your DVR when you are not at home, that is already happening with Samsung devices. Recording exercise movements with wearables (I mentioned masukumas AfyaBand).

Uchumi CEO said in one interview that as technology changes, they are going to be looking more at target marketing. For example, right now, your bank details is available on phone right? So when you walk in the super market, as you look at the various tvs or fridges your phone is talking to these devices, checking your net-worth (bank details), if you can afford then, the for the next couple of days, the advertising that will be popping on your computer - phone (remember they are connected) will be more about this item of better alternative (if your wallet can afford) or cheaper alternatives (if your pockets are small).

IoT is already in use and will be more in use in Smart cities....i can go on and on...but do you get it....?

which phone/app/bank/idiot user allows their phone to share their bank details with supermarkets?


Picture yourself driving down Mombasa road , tailgating a truck at 80km/hr . Then suddenly the truck screeches to a halt!Before your subconscious (system 1 as is known) can respond , your car breaks itself... and so does the 3 cars behind you without any human intervention. connected cars. This is one of the major applications of IoT and only possible with 5G that will offer incredibly fast speed and reduced latency .. of course in conjunction with cloud computing.

The S-Class 2015 can override the driver if an obstacle appears on the road and break. But that's as good as it gets. The car behind will most certainly plough the merc.

Digital Health , Connected homes, application in agriculture, smart cities.. IoT/5G will disrupt current technology as we know it
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murchr
#19 Posted : Friday, April 29, 2016 2:27:20 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries.


IoT is nothing luxury. Having a phone is luxurious but about 80% of Kenyans own one. If you listen to Bob when he's presenting results, he always mentions the grown in smart phones right? He never says why but here is my guess.

Broadband Internet has become more widely available, the cost of connecting is decreasing, more devices are being created with Wi-Fi capabilities and sensors built into them, technology costs are going down, and smartphone penetration is sky-rocketing. This combination is creating a “perfect storm” for the IoT

IoT is basically connecting devices with each other. Imagine switching on your lights at home with your phone, recording TV programs in your DVR when you are not at home, that is already happening with Samsung devices. Recording exercise movements with wearables (I mentioned masukumas AfyaBand).

Uchumi CEO said in one interview that as technology changes, they are going to be looking more at target marketing. For example, right now, your bank details is available on phone right? So when you walk in the super market, as you look at the various tvs or fridges your phone is talking to these devices, checking your net-worth (bank details), if you can afford then, the for the next couple of days, the advertising that will be popping on your computer - phone (remember they are connected) will be more about this item of better alternative (if your wallet can afford) or cheaper alternatives (if your pockets are small).

IoT is already in use and will be more in use in Smart cities....i can go on and on...but do you get it....?

which phone/app/bank/idiot user allows their phone to share their bank details with supermarkets?


Are your bank details on your phone? Your phone will be talking to the device and sharing data. (M2M - Machine to machine (M2M) is a broad label that can be used to describe any technology that enables networked devices to exchange information and perform actions without the manual assistance of humans.)
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#20 Posted : Saturday, April 30, 2016 3:53:36 PM
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Internet of things will NEVER take off in Kenya for instance if i have to search earth and sky to get the raspberrypi2.i should be going to any electronics shop in cbd and get myself the latest rapsberrypi3 with no hustle.
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