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Cord attempts to storm IEBC offices
KulaRaha
#11 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:26:50 PM
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Impunity wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Its a nuisance that will cause traffic. That's the only value it has.


Yu mean traffic jam?


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masukuma
#12 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:30:48 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Lakini Harrydre, my prince buddy

Tell me

I hear there was a case in the UK where some people are actually in jail for bribing IEBC officials. As in they went to court and it was proven that they paid bribes to IEBC officials.

Are those IEBC officials free in Kenya or have they retired and quit their jobs and have been arrested?

Just asking non-partisanly. To get an idea.

Wale ambao walihongwa na mbeberu, ni wafanyakazi wa IEBC? Ama ni kelele za cord tu?

I hate to get into the "mechanics" of this but... what you have written is not exactly true! not entirely.
here is the thing
1) the people in the UK (smith and ouzman) are accused of sending bribes (they sent money) - that is a fact. They sent the bribe money to a middleman who would in turn pay the IIEC people. there was no communication between the IIEC people and S&O on bribes. All communication is with a middleman.

2. the SFO did not investigate to see if a) the money was actually legitimately asked for. b) if the money was actually sent to the IIEC people. Their case was proven once money was sent to the middleman

What the EACC is trying to establish is
1) Was there money asked for
2) Was the money received from the middleman.

So what IIEC people and the ones that were left are saying is... well... I never met this guy! he used my name to get money from his bosses and the agent is saying - I gave you money! That is the case that is currently at EACC.

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Swenani
#13 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:32:29 PM
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alma1 wrote:
You know FRM2011 I didn't know that Itumbi comes to wazua. Honestly that is news to me.

I just want my question answered...This corruption issue.

Is someone in jail in the UK for bribing someone in IEBC? You know UK courts are very keen on evidence. Money passed hands on this date, so you are guilty

If so, is that someone who received what the convicts in the UK are jailed for in charge in this country? Why so?

Does it mean that the gov't is cool when someone is taking bribes?

Cord is one issue. IEBC is another. Even the NCCK the most lagard organisation in the world is wondering what's going on.

Let's be serious for a second. If we pretend that we hate corruption, then the briber and the bribee should both be in jail.

It's like I get arrested by cops because of bribing a cop then the cop goes scot free. Apana boss.

Harrydre tafadhali saidia sisi hapa with the explanations.


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#14 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:32:47 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Impunity wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Its a nuisance that will cause traffic. That's the only value it has.


Yu mean traffic jam?


Strawberry jam

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Has the highway cleared?


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alma1
#15 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:35:23 PM
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masukuma wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Lakini Harrydre, my prince buddy

Tell me

I hear there was a case in the UK where some people are actually in jail for bribing IEBC officials. As in they went to court and it was proven that they paid bribes to IEBC officials.

Are those IEBC officials free in Kenya or have they retired and quit their jobs and have been arrested?

Just asking non-partisanly. To get an idea.

Wale ambao walihongwa na mbeberu, ni wafanyakazi wa IEBC? Ama ni kelele za cord tu?

I hate to get into the "mechanics" of this but... what you have written is not exactly true! not entirely.
here is the thing
1) the people in the UK (smith and ouzman) are accused of sending bribes (they sent money) - that is a fact. They sent the bribe money to a middleman who would in turn pay the IIEC people. there was no communication between the IIEC people and S&O on bribes. All communication is with a middleman.

2. the SFO did not investigate to see if a) the money was actually legitimately asked for. b) if the money was actually sent to the IIEC people. Their case was proven once money was sent to the middleman

What the EACC is trying to establish is
1) Was there money asked for
2) Was the money received from the middleman.

So what IIEC people and the ones that were left are saying is... well... I never met this guy! he used my name to get money from his bosses and the agent is saying - I gave you money! That is the case that is currently at EACC.



Masukuma on this one you are wrong very wrong....Because I'm too sure those undermining laws have been wholly removed, I'll let the internets speak

These are not my words

SFO alleged that the offences took place between November 2006 and December 2010. The case dubbed the Chickengate scandal started on November 10, 2010 at the London court.
SFO also alleged that the defendants used inflated commission payments to overseas agents to mask bribes that were to be passed on to public officials involved in the awarding of contracts for printing ballot papers and certificates.
- See more at: http://www.informereasta...574#sthash.EQ5zL443.dpuf

The prosecution alleged that the largest bung was £337,993 which the SFO believes was paid by S&O to their agent in Kenya Trevy James Oyombra to pay corrupt officials at the IIEC.
During the cross examination, the prosecution alleged that the sum was agreed upon by the defendants and paid to the officials by Trevy out of his £380,859 commission of £1.4 Million.
The transactions took place for a period of 18 months and email exchanges between Trevy Oyombra and Nick Smith were read in Court.
- See more at: http://www.informereasta...574#sthash.EQ5zL443.dpuf


If you take time after removing your goggles go to the UK courts law cases, you shall find the people who were bribed.

Not allegedly bribed my friend. UK courts are very good when it comes to lack of evidence. But actually bribed.

My question to you and Kula Raha...If you remove Raila in the equation, should the bribee be working?

Raila shall milk this one to the very end. In politics you sacrifice a few then move on. That's what the NCCK is saying.
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sitaki.kujulikana
#16 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:45:47 PM
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Swenani wrote:
alma1 wrote:
You know FRM2011 I didn't know that Itumbi comes to wazua. Honestly that is news to me.

I just want my question answered...This corruption issue.

Is someone in jail in the UK for bribing someone in IEBC? You know UK courts are very keen on evidence. Money passed hands on this date, so you are guilty

If so, is that someone who received what the convicts in the UK are jailed for in charge in this country? Why so?

Does it mean that the gov't is cool when someone is taking bribes?

Cord is one issue. IEBC is another. Even the NCCK the most lagard organisation in the world is wondering what's going on.

Let's be serious for a second. If we pretend that we hate corruption, then the briber and the bribee should both be in jail.

It's like I get arrested by cops because of bribing a cop then the cop goes scot free. Apana boss.

Harrydre tafadhali saidia sisi hapa with the explanations.


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kollabo
#17 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:48:27 PM
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"We will not go to court if this IEBC is retained by Jubilee. We will finish each other out there in the open after the results are announced in their favour.” - Junet Mohammed
sitaki.kujulikana
#18 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:50:45 PM
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what are they doing to baba, I am embarrassed for my country if that is how we treat out elders.
alma1
#19 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:53:38 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
alma1 wrote:
You know FRM2011 I didn't know that Itumbi comes to wazua. Honestly that is news to me.

I just want my question answered...This corruption issue.

Is someone in jail in the UK for bribing someone in IEBC? You know UK courts are very keen on evidence. Money passed hands on this date, so you are guilty

If so, is that someone who received what the convicts in the UK are jailed for in charge in this country? Why so?

Does it mean that the gov't is cool when someone is taking bribes?

Cord is one issue. IEBC is another. Even the NCCK the most lagard organisation in the world is wondering what's going on.

Let's be serious for a second. If we pretend that we hate corruption, then the briber and the bribee should both be in jail.

It's like I get arrested by cops because of bribing a cop then the cop goes scot free. Apana boss.

Harrydre tafadhali saidia sisi hapa with the explanations.


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Wacha wote wakuje mafans

This is not Itumbi or Nyakundi. On wazua we speak facts not imaginations and inuendo.

I'll quote again

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Electoral officials at the IIEC were on several occasions described by the agent, Trevy, as trying to make money before they left the IIEC and went back into government. The agent described the officials at on stage as anxious and “broke”, and “they are desperate for the chicken”. The agent also said that officials told him that S&O needed to “be discrete since all peoples eyes and the government intelligence are watching their every move even on the phone to ensure transparency”.

There is your link http://www.cw-uk.org/trial-monitoring/

Decide for yourself not based on your goggles.

https://www.sfo.gov.uk/2...guilty-corruption-trial/

https://www.sfo.gov.uk/2...lowing-corruption-trial/

The Kenyan officials named in court as recipients of payments were as follows:

IIEC: Kenneth Karani (chief procurement officer); David Chirchir (IIEC Commissioner); James Oswago (IIEC Chief Electoral Officer); Dena; Kennedy Nyaundi (Commissioner); Gladys Boss Shollei (Deputy CEO); Issack Hassan; Hamida, Tororey and Sang.

Several of these officials are still in government: David Chirchir is current Energy Minister in government, and Issack Hassan is the current Chairman of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) which took over from the IIEC.

KNEC: Paul Wasanga (executive secretary), Ephraim Wanderi (computer manager), Gitogo (ICT Manager), Ndua (principal supplies officer), Wanyanga (deputy CEO)

In addition, the prosecution claimed that officials from the Kenyan Bureau of Standards were paid bribes, as was Dixon Lugonzo, procurement officer at the National Registration Bureau of Kenya.


My question just as a citizen who just hates corruption.

Masukuma saidia tafadhali coz once in a while you see sence.

Why shouldn't Raila take advantage of this scenario? I'm sure even Mr. Tyranny knows that this one sio ile ya waiguru.

These are real court cases with real names mentioned.

Usually and honest people would just resign and let people continue, just like Mutunga.

This one we want to find out who has bigger balls.

But that's not the issue is it?

Are people who received bribes and proven to have received bribes in the UK still in office?

Most of the time understand that these politicians are all thieves. So once in a while just follow the truth.


Baba again beats you in politics all over again. Shame really coz he can't be my president.
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sitaki.kujulikana
#20 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 4:59:59 PM
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they have even made him remove his glasses, very bad, lets wait for skm now
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