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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,816 Location: NAIROBI
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@murchr The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it. Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2014 Posts: 228 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. IoT is nothing luxury. Having a phone is luxurious but about 80% of Kenyans own one. If you listen to Bob when he's presenting results, he always mentions the grown in smart phones right? He never says why but here is my guess. Broadband Internet has become more widely available, the cost of connecting is decreasing, more devices are being created with Wi-Fi capabilities and sensors built into them, technology costs are going down, and smartphone penetration is sky-rocketing. This combination is creating a “perfect storm” for the IoT IoT is basically connecting devices with each other. Imagine switching on your lights at home with your phone, recording TV programs in your DVR when you are not at home, that is already happening with Samsung devices. Recording exercise movements with wearables (I mentioned masukumas AfyaBand). Uchumi CEO said in one interview that as technology changes, they are going to be looking more at target marketing. For example, right now, your bank details is available on phone right? So when you walk in the super market, as you look at the various tvs or fridges your phone is talking to these devices, checking your net-worth (bank details), if you can afford then, the for the next couple of days, the advertising that will be popping on your computer - phone (remember they are connected) will be more about this item of better alternative (if your wallet can afford) or cheaper alternatives (if your pockets are small). IoT is already in use and will be more in use in Smart cities....i can go on and on...but do you get it....? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Hello Joined: 3/23/2016 Posts: 1
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iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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vonmises wrote:iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want. You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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murchr wrote:vonmises wrote:iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want. You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without. Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg 1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. 2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter. 3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. 4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. 5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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sparkly wrote:murchr wrote:vonmises wrote:iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want. You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without. Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg 1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it? 2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter. This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that 4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever.  am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock. 5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money. 1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi. 2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet. 3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda. Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW***** "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/28/2016 Posts: 37 Location: nairobi
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iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along Internet connectivity in kenya is poor if not mediocre. mainly because there was poor network planning by safaricom and some places are not well connected. Attended some Internet of things forum at iHub and some tech company called BRCK - were testing some IoT devices (tablets that can be used by kids in marginalised areas for education) and the tests were marred by issues related to poor network. Also power was be a problem. We need to invest in reliable power and ensure the country will be well connected to reap maximum benefits from Iot.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,367 Location: Nairobi
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kediveKed wrote:iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along Internet connectivity in kenya is poor if not mediocre. mainly because there was poor network planning by safaricom and some places are not well connected. Attended some Internet of things forum at iHub and some tech company called BRCK - were testing some IoT devices (tablets that can be used by kids in marginalised areas for education) and the tests were marred by issues related to poor network. Also power was be a problem. We need to invest in reliable power and ensure the country will be well connected to reap maximum benefits from Iot. It will happen. Safaricom has rolled out 4G in Nairobi and Mombasa. Soon 4G will expand to major towns. Furthermore, cables are being laid between and within towns all over Kenya. KPLC and Safaricom are collaborating on providing KPLC customers with 'last mile' solutions for internet access. There will always be someone without great access but connecting 80% of Kenyans with 3G (or better) is a possibility by 2020. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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murchr wrote:sparkly wrote:murchr wrote:vonmises wrote:iris wrote:Ericsson wrote:@murchr
The internet of things is a good idea but what is the viability of it.
Do kenyans have the disposable income to avoid such luxuries. They (Kenyans) will not be able to avoid and they will not be luxuries by then. If you buy appliances, they will probably require Internet to operate properly or even to start working. So unless we become manufacturers and deliberately opt to stay put as the world moves forward, we will be carried along a fridge that will not work if it's not connected to the internet, is a fridge i do not want. You will not have a choice because that will be the standard. The option is to stay without. Internet of things will come but many people will still remain analogue. The market will always find ways of serving the analogue. All pieces of technology are underused eg 1. Smartphone is used for calling, texting and surfing. Not many use VPN, email, networking, remote storage, office suites, financial apps, photo editing, calenders and many others. For how long? If you use any of these services, why are you imagining that others are not doing it? 2. Banks are fully automated with withdrawal and deposit capable atms, internet banking, mobile banking, bank to mobile, mobile to bank but people still queue to deposit at the counter. This will soon be history, it has started, a little education will change everything3. A micro wave oven is a fully capable jiko to cook all foods (except ugali) but people only use it to warm food. That is enough, there are rice cookers, chapati cookers, digitized stoves, crockpots, fridges, all these stuff were unheard of in the 80s no? In todays kitchens, grannys warm food using microwaves....culture is not constant remember that 4. Biometric controls available cheaply but padlocks are more in used than ever. am yet to see a bank locking its doors with a padlock. 5. Smart wearables are nothing more than fashion fads. Thats all it takes to make money. 1. Uber, Easy Taxi, Lift, will all change how you hop into a taxi. 2. Samsung Pay, will change how you view your wallet. 3. What is M-Kopa Solar - a pay-as-you-go, mobile phone–enabled home solar panel system for off-grid rural villagers in Kenya and Uganda. Disclaimer*******Internet is not synonymous to WWW***** @murchr you are deliberately missing my point. That IoT is real but for 20% who become smart, 80% will remain analogue. For every new technology introduced, people will use 20% of what they pay for but 80% is technology forced upon them, they pay for but don't use. Sort of how computer makers keep on upgrading processor speed and memory yet most domestic consumer use computers for word processing, spreadsheets and an occasional movie. Life is short. Live passionately.
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