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Wakanyugi wrote:Swenani wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Swenani wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:muganda wrote:The big questions:1. Which depositors don't interpret this as a call to MOVE funds? Including via online and mobile banking come Wednesday? 2. Do the hefty depositors locked in, 64bn in 5,000 accounts, who obviously have relations with more than one bank, agree to move to KCB? There is a good reason why banks record depositors on the debit column (beyond accounting practice). The real value to KCB is in the loan portfolio and especially the SME customers that Chase has attracted over the years. These ones are much harder to move. For the long term, some value could come from the brand but I don't think KCB will want a competing brand in its stable. Remember the challenges they have had over the years in integrating Savings and Loan, which is their baby. What is the reason? In most cases, you will find that total net book value is usually less than total custom deposits, the bank cannot only be interested in loan book at the expenses of deposits since the later determines the former When you deposit money in an account the Bank considers it a loan that you can often call back any time. So it goes to the liability column. But when you borrow money from a bank, the logic is reversed. To the Banker, you are now the gift that keeps on giving. Of course I am not a banker...but akina Kula Raha wanaweza kuchangia huu mjadala. What you have explained above is the accounting practise, In your post, you stated there is another reason beyond the accounting practice-That's what I was waiting to hear/read Asi! Swenani, na wewe ni aye. It was a finger of speech Aiii naku!!! Finger of speech ndio gani tena? Any relations to one Hellon and Esther Arunga? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,838
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enyands wrote:murchr wrote:kiash wrote:Just like Dr Mwangi said about Technology in Equity, banking jobs will be left for a very few. Those tellers will dissapear. You will not need a teller to withdraw or deposit.Machines will replace people.It has happened here and you pop into a bank, a receptionist who does everything like giving out new cards ama checkbooks.The rest work with appointments.This will be the case in Kenya, checking account balance online is/will be possible book appointment for a kaloan, withdraw hapo nje,deposit.
Actually in Kenya it might turn out in a very different way coz of mobile banking.
Let the employees dance for now Yes Bank tellers will be a job of the past. Customer care reps will be needed tho, not everyone is computer literate, so they will need people to speak to customers on phone, they will need to sell their products so these reps will be needed for a while. I look at bank tellers feeling hot across the counter and just pity them... Used to be one. When employed they tell you you need to be neat and look good because you are the image of the bank. We used to be money custodian of guys in the informal sector who would earn 10 time more than us and they never wore a neck choking tie like we did and having crazy targets. Most of those guys should go and learn ICT stuff if they have to survive. And some banks are employing babies as tellers nowadays - I guess it is on contract. I visited one and had a problem believing some of the tellers were above 18. Others take students on attachment and put them in the banking hall pap! Probably after a day of training. I hate when some kid tries to tell me something I have been doing all along is not possible and even argues with me trying to explain to me why it is not possible. I try to school the fellow but his crammed theory can't allow him to understand. He argues till a more experienced employee intervenes. Some idiot on attachment once told me it is not possible to apply for extra shares than allocated in a rights issue. I argued with him for some time and he could not hear any of it. I went to the extent of showing him the section on the form where you indicate the number of extra shares you are applying for and he told me they probably meant I should buy those extra shares from the open market at current market prices!!! I almost slapped the day light out of him! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Ethiteri wrote:I hear Sidian has bagged most of the "hot mamas" akina maka have been salivating for.
Hope they do the Chase Magic at Sidian. Happy for you Ethiteri for getting a job so soon! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:enyands wrote:murchr wrote:kiash wrote:Just like Dr Mwangi said about Technology in Equity, banking jobs will be left for a very few. Those tellers will dissapear. You will not need a teller to withdraw or deposit.Machines will replace people.It has happened here and you pop into a bank, a receptionist who does everything like giving out new cards ama checkbooks.The rest work with appointments.This will be the case in Kenya, checking account balance online is/will be possible book appointment for a kaloan, withdraw hapo nje,deposit.
Actually in Kenya it might turn out in a very different way coz of mobile banking.
Let the employees dance for now Yes Bank tellers will be a job of the past. Customer care reps will be needed tho, not everyone is computer literate, so they will need people to speak to customers on phone, they will need to sell their products so these reps will be needed for a while. I look at bank tellers feeling hot across the counter and just pity them... Used to be one. When employed they tell you you need to be neat and look good because you are the image of the bank. We used to be money custodian of guys in the informal sector who would earn 10 time more than us and they never wore a neck choking tie like we did and having crazy targets. Most of those guys should go and learn ICT stuff if they have to survive. And some banks are employing babies as tellers nowadays - I guess it is on contract. I visited one and had a problem believing some of the tellers were above 18. Others taken students on attachment and put them in the banking hall pap! Probably after a day of training. I hate when some kid tries to tell me something I have been doing all along is not possible and even argues with me trying to explain to me why it is not possible. I try to school the fellow but his crammed theory can't allow him to understand. He argues till a more experienced employee intervenes. Some idiot on attachment once told me it is not possible to apply for extra shares than allocated in a rights issue. I argued with him for some time and he could not hear any of it. I went to the extent of showing him the section on the form where you indicate the number of extra shares you are applying and he told me they probably meant I should buy those extra shares from the open market at current market prices!!! I almost slapped the day light out of him! MaichBlack that kids ego of being a "banker " won't let him/her accept that a non banker can school a banker .  .been there long time and I know . Though iv heard good things about the Chase cum kcb bank tellers and their customer service . I really want to go get that experience . Can't wait for august
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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KCB can make Chase Bank a subsidiary or division purely dedicated to SME instead of lumping their SME banking under the Retail Banking division and retain the staff to undertake this mission. The Chase Bank branches can be converted to SME banking Centres similar to what it does with Savings and Loans where the branches are branded as Mortgage centers. This way KCB will make sure it reaps maximum benefit on the Chase Bank acquisition. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Your thought are in the right direction. Loading kcb culture on that of chase Will bear no fruit
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,219 Location: nairobi
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streetwise wrote:Your thought are in the right direction. Loading kcb culture on that of chase Will bear no fruit what culture did chase have.. short skirts isn't banking, globally
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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obiero wrote:streetwise wrote:Your thought are in the right direction. Loading kcb culture on that of chase Will bear no fruit what culture did chase have.. short skirts isn't banking, globally Chase culture was hollow: Sleeping with the boss isn't a long-term strategy. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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KulaRaha wrote:obiero wrote:streetwise wrote:Your thought are in the right direction. Loading kcb culture on that of chase Will bear no fruit what culture did chase have.. short skirts isn't banking, globally Chase culture was hollow: Sleeping with the boss isn't a long-term strategy. @Ethiteri,have you seen this? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/4/2016 Posts: 175 Location: Global
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Swenani wrote:KulaRaha wrote:obiero wrote:streetwise wrote:Your thought are in the right direction. Loading kcb culture on that of chase Will bear no fruit what culture did chase have.. short skirts isn't banking, globally Chase culture was hollow: Sleeping with the boss isn't a long-term strategy. @Ethiteri,have you seen this? I think its good to give credit where its due. There was a culture that shaped people in a certain way.A culture that grew in both men and women.It banking circles it was easy to pick out a chaser based on how they carried themselves around.Dressing,talking,mannersisms etc That women wore short skirts and slept with bosses is not unique to Chase.True some(maybe 100/1000) women slept with bosses and consequently moved up career/salary wise.Yes some women wore micro mini skirts that attracted men clientele to the bank:- meaning they achieved their goal at that point.They had targets to meet and if a micro skirt will bring that client,whats wrong with that?And by the way its not like they dressed like K/street langas. They were above the knee skirts and body hugging but not necessarily indecent. But I think the good culture we are talking about is the one that helped business grow.Exceptional customer service,service with a smile,prompt feedback,going an extra mile to make things happen for you the customer.That water and sweets in the banking hall were small items but made a big difference.
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