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Ban on Mitumba Clothes
mkeiy
#51 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:34:51 AM
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kayhara wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Ban on mitumba clothes will be spread over a period of 10 years

how by reducing quantity or step by step ban ngothas, socks, then trousers and jackets and then shoes?



Taxes.
Duty payable on mtumba will gradually go up in those ten years to a point where mtumba would be unprofitable.

My thinking!
Much Know
#52 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 9:39:11 AM
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mkeiy wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Ban on mitumba clothes will be spread over a period of 10 years

how by reducing quantity or step by step ban ngothas, socks, then trousers and jackets and then shoes?



Taxes.
Duty payable on mtumba will gradually go up in those ten years to a point where mtumba would be unprofitable.

My thinking!

Yeah, some people have to get a moderated transition from this business/employment, you have to also calm those who think mutumba is good for them, and their incessant 'very intelligent' arguments, a few thick people, they are usually very dangerous with anything developmental, a "heshimu mjinga" kind of "shindano ya maji" process to manage tantrums from childish politicians, and another stupid article by ndii telling people just how excellent mitumba is and has been for Kenya, it's all good, just ensure they begin the 'action' somewhere soon.
Ras Kienyeji Man
murchr
#53 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:18:16 AM
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I hear business has been bad. Although it may look bad for those trading in the business, it is also good because now Kenyans will think out of the box and probably jump start other businesses geared towards manufacturing.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#54 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:20:51 AM
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murchr wrote:
I hear business has been bad. Although it may look bad for those trading in the business, it is also good because now Kenyans will think out of the box and probably jump start other businesses geared towards manufacturing.

not when we are still importing new sub-standard and cheap clothes.
kayhara
#55 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:42:38 PM
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Was at a mtumba warehouse in Kongowea today, the bales are running low, stock will be out by end of month, if importation is not allowed retail traders will either have to start selling the new clothes or close or join others bringing in from TZ and UG illegally that is, they could start closing up.
There is also a war between mtumba cars and KRA still in the ring,
Most kenyans even those who can afford say new pair of school shoes from bata swear by mtumba shoes, BATA school shoes look 8 years old in the first week, mtumba school shoes usually last a full year or just don't fit anymore and are handed down.
For cars consumers complain that the new cars sold in kenya are very bare with few extras and for say the 5m getting a new toyota double cab can get you a top spec ford ranger and spare change on top.
in short Kenyans want quality items for fair price, I would like for mtumba clothes never to come back, some kenyans will fill in the gaps, quality will come up later.
To Each His Own
murchr
#56 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:51:34 PM
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kayhara wrote:
Was at a mtumba warehouse in Kongowea today, the bales are running low, stock will be out by end of month, if importation is not allowed retail traders will either have to start selling the new clothes or close or join others bringing in from TZ and UG illegally that is, they could start closing up.
There is also a war between mtumba cars and KRA still in the ring,
Most kenyans even those who can afford say new pair of school shoes from bata swear by mtumba shoes, BATA school shoes look 8 years old in the first week, mtumba school shoes usually last a full year or just don't fit anymore and are handed down.
For cars consumers complain that the new cars sold in kenya are very bare with few extras and for say the 5m getting a new toyota double cab can get you a top spec ford ranger and spare change on top.
in short Kenyans want quality items for fair price, I would like for mtumba clothes never to come back, some kenyans will fill in the gaps, quality will come up later.


When you think of mitumba clothes being made at EPZ Athiriver...going to US/UK etc and then coming back as Mtumba and being sold at the same price as new, you have to wonder what is this quality we are seeking.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#57 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 4:51:36 PM
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I will never understand a gov't policy that in effect calls it's citizens cheap.

I don't mind second hand clothes. They serve a purpose in every economy even the biggest ones.

What I don't understand is how gov't can allow the death of a local industry so as to be kind to the merchants of second hand underwear.

Kenyans won't die without mitumba. We can start visiting our local tailors.

This mitumba business has killed the once flourishing cotton industry and tailors all over the country.

The gov't must take this opportunity to reduce their uptake going forward. Tailors can employ more people in Kenya than second hand underwear sellers.

They are different from car traders who are being cheated out of their living by fake kenya manufacturing plants that manufactur nothing and price a car 3x it's true cost worldwide.

Mitumba must go for the sake of the cotton industry in this region.

And at least so that we can get women in Kenya not wearing shiffon coz it's 100 bob.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

mkenyan
#58 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:44:16 PM
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alma1 wrote:
I will never understand a gov't policy that in effect calls it's citizens cheap.

I don't mind second hand clothes. They serve a purpose in every economy even the biggest ones.

What I don't understand is how gov't can allow the death of a local industry so as to be kind to the merchants of second hand underwear.

Kenyans won't die without mitumba. We can start visiting our local tailors.

This mitumba business has killed the once flourishing cotton industry and tailors all over the country.

The gov't must take this opportunity to reduce their uptake going forward. Tailors can employ more people in Kenya than second hand underwear sellers.

They are different from car traders who are being cheated out of their living by fake kenya manufacturing plants that manufactur nothing and price a car 3x it's true cost worldwide.

Mitumba must go for the sake of the cotton industry in this region.

And at least so that we can get women in Kenya not wearing shiffon coz it's 100 bob.

where will we grow cotton? we are already cutting down tea and coffee for buildings. we would probably end up importing the fabrics too. unless many things are changed, any cotton industry will always go the way of the sugarcane industry.
murchr
#59 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:22:05 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
alma1 wrote:
I will never understand a gov't policy that in effect calls it's citizens cheap.

I don't mind second hand clothes. They serve a purpose in every economy even the biggest ones.

What I don't understand is how gov't can allow the death of a local industry so as to be kind to the merchants of second hand underwear.

Kenyans won't die without mitumba. We can start visiting our local tailors.

This mitumba business has killed the once flourishing cotton industry and tailors all over the country.

The gov't must take this opportunity to reduce their uptake going forward. Tailors can employ more people in Kenya than second hand underwear sellers.

They are different from car traders who are being cheated out of their living by fake kenya manufacturing plants that manufactur nothing and price a car 3x it's true cost worldwide.

Mitumba must go for the sake of the cotton industry in this region.

And at least so that we can get women in Kenya not wearing shiffon coz it's 100 bob.

where will we grow cotton? we are already cutting down tea and coffee for buildings. we would probably end up importing the fabrics too. unless many things are changed, any cotton industry will always go the way of the sugarcane industry.



Cotton is not grown in tea/coffee producing areas.

Cotton was killed by Moi to punish his enemies in Nyanza (Kisumu Cotton Millers KICOMI), its can easily grow in Ukambani (Makueni), TharakaNithi, Nyanza and other semi arid areas.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#60 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9:25:55 PM
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murchr wrote:
kayhara wrote:
Was at a mtumba warehouse in Kongowea today, the bales are running low, stock will be out by end of month, if importation is not allowed retail traders will either have to start selling the new clothes or close or join others bringing in from TZ and UG illegally that is, they could start closing up.
There is also a war between mtumba cars and KRA still in the ring,
Most kenyans even those who can afford say new pair of school shoes from bata swear by mtumba shoes, BATA school shoes look 8 years old in the first week, mtumba school shoes usually last a full year or just don't fit anymore and are handed down.
For cars consumers complain that the new cars sold in kenya are very bare with few extras and for say the 5m getting a new toyota double cab can get you a top spec ford ranger and spare change on top.
in short Kenyans want quality items for fair price, I would like for mtumba clothes never to come back, some kenyans will fill in the gaps, quality will come up later.


When you think of mitumba clothes being made at EPZ Athiriver...going to US/UK etc and then coming back as Mtumba and being sold at the same price as new, you have to wonder what is this quality we are seeking.

not true
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