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masukuma
#71 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 11:22:00 AM
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it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!
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Liv
#72 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 11:39:16 AM
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masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.
Angelica _ann
#73 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:16:30 PM
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Liv wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.

we are more concerned with who were the aggressors?
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masukuma
#74 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 12:46:04 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Liv wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.

we are more concerned with who were the aggressors?

Just saying that creating a narrative where the aggressors suffered loss and making it the main thing is dishonest!! Raila goes and says "Only 500 died" in Eldoret... ONLY? how dare he!! ONLY? it's a life... if these people were able to changia you one year of their lives you would live to be 500+ years.... so don't trivialize lives of people by using "ONLY" before deaths of humans like yourself. If (God forbid) Raila was killed today... would we say... ONLY 1 person was killed? it's immoral!! what we are doing is demeaning lives lost. I was on this forum in 2007 - documenting the happenings in Nakuru and Naivasha PRIOR TO THE WELL TELEVISED VERSIONS OF THE EVENTS. My family lost property.... 2-3days before the 27th. I know what I am talking about!
PEV started like 30..31st DEC? and happened in Naivasha on 26-27? almost 4 weeks later. What was happening hapo katikati? PEV did not start on the 27th of Jan and so it's immoral and dishonest to attempt to create poster children of PEV by sharing images on facebook of a particular group of victims. Watu wamenyamaza tu... they know who suffered and they are seeing who they consider lesser victims hijack the event.
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alma1
#75 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 1:58:51 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Liv wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.

we are more concerned with who were the aggressors?

Just saying that creating a narrative where the aggressors suffered loss and making it the main thing is dishonest!! Raila goes and says "Only 500 died" in Eldoret... ONLY? how dare he!! ONLY? it's a life... if these people were able to changia you one year of their lives you would live to be 500+ years.... so don't trivialize lives of people by using "ONLY" before deaths of humans like yourself. If (God forbid) Raila was killed today... would we say... ONLY 1 person was killed? it's immoral!! what we are doing is demeaning lives lost. I was on this forum in 2007 - documenting the happenings in Nakuru and Naivasha PRIOR TO THE WELL TELEVISED VERSIONS OF THE EVENTS. My family lost property.... 2-3days before the 27th. I know what I am talking about!
PEV started like 30..31st DEC? and happened in Naivasha on 26-27? almost 4 weeks later. What was happening hapo katikati? PEV did not start on the 27th of Jan and so it's immoral and dishonest to attempt to create poster children of PEV by sharing images on facebook of a particular group of victims. Watu wamenyamaza tu... they know who suffered and they are seeing who they consider lesser victims hijack the event.



What is the meaning of a lesser victim?

If there was a victim there has to be a victor.

Since I'm a bit confused, who were the victims, the lessor victims and the victors.

I too want to join in the celebrations and want to make sure I'm celebrating with the victims, or the victors. Depending on semantics and goggles.
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masukuma
#76 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 3:35:48 PM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Liv wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.

we are more concerned with who were the aggressors?

Just saying that creating a narrative where the aggressors suffered loss and making it the main thing is dishonest!! Raila goes and says "Only 500 died" in Eldoret... ONLY? how dare he!! ONLY? it's a life... if these people were able to changia you one year of their lives you would live to be 500+ years.... so don't trivialize lives of people by using "ONLY" before deaths of humans like yourself. If (God forbid) Raila was killed today... would we say... ONLY 1 person was killed? it's immoral!! what we are doing is demeaning lives lost. I was on this forum in 2007 - documenting the happenings in Nakuru and Naivasha PRIOR TO THE WELL TELEVISED VERSIONS OF THE EVENTS. My family lost property.... 2-3days before the 27th. I know what I am talking about!
PEV started like 30..31st DEC? and happened in Naivasha on 26-27? almost 4 weeks later. What was happening hapo katikati? PEV did not start on the 27th of Jan and so it's immoral and dishonest to attempt to create poster children of PEV by sharing images on facebook of a particular group of victims. Watu wamenyamaza tu... they know who suffered and they are seeing who they consider lesser victims hijack the event.



What is the meaning of a lesser victim?

If there was a victim there has to be a victor.

Since I'm a bit confused, who were the victims, the lessor victims and the victors.

I too want to join in the celebrations and want to make sure I'm celebrating with the victims, or the victors. Depending on semantics and goggles.

Keyword in the statement was
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seeing who they consider lesser victims

it's an opinion, a consideration. Rightly or Wrongly evidently RV Kyuks feel like they bore the brunt of the PEV. They see themselves as the victims of PEV and if you notice they are the ones who are not going around throwing threats of how bad 2017 will be. But there is the other group of people who kaza their behinds wishing for bad things to happen - then claim that they are the poster children of the violence of 2007. Ask yourself - why are certain images of disfigured persons being sent around?
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#77 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 6:14:51 PM
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If it were possible for a party to face charges over 07PEV, then ODM would be that party. From 2005 they engaged in an anti-Kikuyu campaign that made people be more than prepared to hack each other

ODM was more anti Kikuyu than anti Kibaki
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alma1
#78 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 6:58:14 PM
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masukuma wrote:
alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Liv wrote:
masukuma wrote:
it's quite interesting how ODM spins PEV so that it seems like they were the victims! very interesting! They were not victims of PEV!



Repeated lies eventually become the truth.

we are more concerned with who were the aggressors?

Just saying that creating a narrative where the aggressors suffered loss and making it the main thing is dishonest!! Raila goes and says "Only 500 died" in Eldoret... ONLY? how dare he!! ONLY? it's a life... if these people were able to changia you one year of their lives you would live to be 500+ years.... so don't trivialize lives of people by using "ONLY" before deaths of humans like yourself. If (God forbid) Raila was killed today... would we say... ONLY 1 person was killed? it's immoral!! what we are doing is demeaning lives lost. I was on this forum in 2007 - documenting the happenings in Nakuru and Naivasha PRIOR TO THE WELL TELEVISED VERSIONS OF THE EVENTS. My family lost property.... 2-3days before the 27th. I know what I am talking about!
PEV started like 30..31st DEC? and happened in Naivasha on 26-27? almost 4 weeks later. What was happening hapo katikati? PEV did not start on the 27th of Jan and so it's immoral and dishonest to attempt to create poster children of PEV by sharing images on facebook of a particular group of victims. Watu wamenyamaza tu... they know who suffered and they are seeing who they consider lesser victims hijack the event.



What is the meaning of a lesser victim?

If there was a victim there has to be a victor.

Since I'm a bit confused, who were the victims, the lessor victims and the victors.

I too want to join in the celebrations and want to make sure I'm celebrating with the victims, or the victors. Depending on semantics and goggles.

Keyword in the statement was
Quote:
seeing who they consider lesser victims

it's an opinion, a consideration. Rightly or Wrongly evidently RV Kyuks feel like they bore the brunt of the PEV. They see themselves as the victims of PEV and if you notice they are the ones who are not going around throwing threats of how bad 2017 will be. But there is the other group of people who kaza their behinds wishing for bad things to happen - then claim that they are the poster children of the violence of 2007. Ask yourself - why are certain images of disfigured persons being sent around?


Because maybe someone took a photo of something that actually happened?

I'm finding it ridicolous that the first people who talk about tribe are young people.

There's nothing like kyuks from sijui where and luo's from sijui where and kales from sijui where.

Only the 12 tribes of Israel have the luxury of boasting about where they came from.

The rest of us are just human beings.

So Dida should not ask what happened to kyuks of rift valley because he's a muslim? Or what do you mean?

There's a lot of blame to go around. But my problem is still, no one wants to call anyone into account. It's always someone elses fault. Just like the Chase Bank thing where media stories are being leaked about shareholders, former shareholders, directors...etc, its really annoying.

You as someone who "suffered" from the mess and are willing to forgive and forget and blame Raila or the boogey man? What makes you think that your state of content is mine?

You know very well, that nature abhors a vacuum, it must be filled.

For as long as we have scenarios where no one is jailed for doing something bad, there shall be a vacuum. Don't worry about Raila, he shall not be there in 2022. 2017 is a prayer.

Worry about the fellow in your shags who's not as excited as you are but has been told to keep quiet. After all, there was a party going on in Nakuru right now.

Just a thought that you may or not disagree with. But I'm in the school of thought that until a vacuum is filled, it shall be filled by the least expected scenario.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

masukuma
#79 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 7:21:30 PM
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alma1 wrote:

Because maybe someone took a photo of something that actually happened?

I'm finding it ridicolous that the first people who talk about tribe are young people.

There's nothing like kyuks from sijui where and luo's from sijui where and kales from sijui where.

Only the 12 tribes of Israel have the luxury of boasting about where they came from.

The rest of us are just human beings.

So Dida should not ask what happened to kyuks of rift valley because he's a muslim? Or what do you mean?

There's a lot of blame to go around. But my problem is still, no one wants to call anyone into account. It's always someone elses fault. Just like the Chase Bank thing where media stories are being leaked about shareholders, former shareholders, directors...etc, its really annoying.

You as someone who "suffered" from the mess and are willing to forgive and forget and blame Raila or the boogey man? What makes you think that your state of content is mine?

You know very well, that nature abhors a vacuum, it must be filled.

For as long as we have scenarios where no one is jailed for doing something bad, there shall be a vacuum. Don't worry about Raila, he shall not be there in 2022. 2017 is a prayer.

Worry about the fellow in your shags who's not as excited as you are but has been told to keep quiet. After all, there was a party going on in Nakuru right now.

Just a thought that you may or not disagree with. But I'm in the school of thought that until a vacuum is filled, it shall be filled by the least expected scenario.

Oh yeah... PEV started on Jan 26th! Nothing was happening before that!

if no one took a video of it... IT NEVER HAPPENED!!
The facts are KISIIs and RIFT VALLEY KIKUYUS BORE THE BRUNT OF THE PEV... that's a fact!! unlike these other fellows here who tetea Uhuru... I speak of my fate. Born and raised in Naks... Born and Raised!! witnessed all PEVs. I have housed people. Our property has been commandeered by some other characters who now claim that they are the victims! That pisses me off!! it really does!! Just because there are no images floating around on the internet coz people were to busy fleeing for their lives in neighbouring areas grown men never slept indoors for like 2 months. We know the idea some had.... at Mpaka Kinungi.... We know... and whatever these guys are doing... demeaning what happened and pretending to be the victims is pissing people more than the Kaleos who say "come on - let's move on".
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alma1
#80 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 8:57:59 PM
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Masukuma your anger is misdirected.

Even your victomology

I have no doubt in my mind that a lot of people bear the brunt of all that happened.

But unlike you, I don't think for one second that because those I think bear responsibility have not borne it, the others get a free pass too in the name of whatever you want to call the dancing in Nakuru is meant to be.

As long as no one bore responsibility, there's a vacuum


You are talking like a victim not as someone who's happy

"Our property has been commandeered by some other characters who now claim that they are the victims!"

You know what happened. You know who did what to whom....But its ok itsorait.

That my friend as long as you live shall be the thing that bites you for the rest of you life.


I'm in the school of thought that's apparently not yours.

I actually do like Uhuru and Ruto, but in my eyes, as long as this mess that happened is not sorted, that's a vacuum

But I also don't fall in the group of fellows who shall wear their T-Shirts telling them they are right when I know they are not.

You can play political music with words as much as you wish. But mine is a simple thing to advise...If you know that someone did something to you that you did not like and as you said, nothing was done, aii boss.

Don't go far..Go to the blue section....Being f***ed by people you trust ain't funny. I still remember the first chick who dumped me.

In the old testament its called an eye for an eye.

In the new testament we call it, we shall meet you when God is judging.

I too have a story to tell. But I'm not willing to listen to politicians from any side. Any side...I trust no one.

But if you have my cow....No amount of dancing and being preached to shall make me forget....Please tell me I'm mad. Coz obviously you have not forgotten no Raila no peace.

Life is life. Politics is politics.

We need to know when to separate them and act accordingly.

And I feel your pain brother I do...But won't agree to be sucked in by politics of whatever kind.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

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