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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
Othelo
#131 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:39:29 AM
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Kiviutu (RIP) confirmed the stealing smile
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mawinder
#132 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 12:34:22 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Kiviutu (RIP) confirmed the stealing smile

He confirmed that Kibaki never won the election.That action of stealing elections led to people to rise against Jarabuon.
githundi
#133 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:04:22 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Kiviutu (RIP) confirmed the stealing smile

He confirmed that Kibaki never won the election.That action of stealing elections led to people to rise against Jarabuon.

Nay. .do not put your words to Kivuitus mouth. ..He did not say 'Kibaki never won'
Let his soul rest in peace
Democracy does not belong to the dead
limanika
#134 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:05:08 PM
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Let me ask a 'silly' question, in all of kenya, is wsr the best person to lead in 2022? if it's not known or it's not the case, why should we be stuck? Same case 4 2017. we're 40million kenyans and someone should have the decency to let us choose our destiny at any one time
hardwood
#135 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:16:26 PM
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Fact is that TNA and URP have shared current gov't 50/50. So what political debt with be there to be paid by any of the parties after ? Kila mtu ameshiba.
Lolest!
#136 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:24:07 PM
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mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

@lonest, put the the thief on the trial, not the victim. What caused PEV is theft.

What you are advocating here is like blaming victims of terror attack for not wearing bulletproof armour or blaming someone who raised a terror alert.

what theft? somehow people have repeated this lie over and over again over the last 10 years until the winning side started wondering if it was true..


Kibaki won!!

Raila won.I was at KICC and saw the returning officer from Molo come in with votes yet ECK had inflated Kibaki votes.I saw Kivuitu inflate the election results for Tharaka Nithi. It is also well known what Kivuitu and his team including one wazuan stole elections for Kibaki.

'Mawinder will say anything' -Maichblack, 2014
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#137 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:26:47 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Fact is that TNA and URP have shared current gov't 50/50. So what political debt with be there to be paid by any of the parties after ? Kila mtu ameshiba.

Even if a DP gets 60% the ultimate prize is desired
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
hardwood
#138 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:44:44 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
mawinder wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:

@lonest, put the the thief on the trial, not the victim. What caused PEV is theft.

What you are advocating here is like blaming victims of terror attack for not wearing bulletproof armour or blaming someone who raised a terror alert.

what theft? somehow people have repeated this lie over and over again over the last 10 years until the winning side started wondering if it was true..


Kibaki won!!

Raila won.I was at KICC and saw the returning officer from Molo come in with votes yet ECK had inflated Kibaki votes.I saw Kivuitu inflate the election results for Tharaka Nithi. It is also well known what Kivuitu and his team including one wazuan stole elections for Kibaki.

'Mawinder will say anything' -Maichblack, 2014


The fake Molo returning officer is on record saying that he was paid by Nyongo to lie to the nation that PNU stole votes. He was never a returning officer and had to seek assylum after the lie.
maka
#139 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2016 9:47:38 PM
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http://www.nation.co.ke/...32/-/6ewnc/-/index.html
Mount Kenya voters will back Deputy President William Ruto for the presidency if he reveals how he will share power with the region, Kiambu County Governor William Kabogo has said.

Mr Kabogo stirred the hornet’s nest early this week when he said that voters from the region may not honour a 2013 deal to support Mr Ruto’s quest for the presidency in 2022.
possunt quia posse videntur
FRM2011
#140 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2016 10:46:42 PM
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Let's go slow on this 2022 manenos. I imagine a guy in kiambaa or burnt forest is not amused by this kind of talk.

But a friend put it to me in perspective. By June 2012, general feeling in mt.kenya was that it would be hard to sell another kyuk president after kibaki. Barely 6 months later, tables had turned.

During the 2005 referendum, uhuru lost the vote not just in central but also in his own polling center. He was a non-entity in central kenya politics. 10 years later and the same people can skin you alive if you say anything against the same guy.

You couldn't sell kibaki in kiambu and muranga in 1992. Tis why Njenga karume lost to ford asili. In 1997, Ngilu's sdp almost swept kiambu to beat kibaki. By 2007, kibaki's support was fanatical in the same kiambu.

If anyone still wants to talk about 2022, go ahead but remember the dynamics then will be very different.
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