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There was one Kivutha Kibwana a professor indeed he even advised Kibaki and right now he is being lectured by mwana wa squatter on how to govern Makueni. Why do you call them brilliant ? i think a part from doctors(who treat people and not tittles) would be the only people i would call brilliant. Others can be crammers (sijui if thasts the correct english) Look at today for instancen there will be matatu strike reason , a doctor controlling the county knew all along there is a problem and licences were issued. He was brought to senses by Kamanda who i doubt (his educational status). On another noten was Waiguru not a "brilliant" mind ? 
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rurinjaa wrote:@Kibaki case is different, it's debatable whether Githongo stood up. If he hanged in there, working at State House he had the opportunity to lay strategies to slay corruption. he chose to bail. I sometimes wonder why he had more punch when he was in TI than he has now and even the "other" side seems not to embrace him except when they want crowds and big names to storm the streets, shouting! You do not know what you are talking about If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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FRM2011 wrote:I have been toying with this question in my mind over and over.
You are a brilliant chap, at the pinnacle of your professional path, and then you take up a govt job that undoes all you have built over the years. Examples may suffice.
Amos wako was an internationally recognized lawyer who once served as UN special rapporteur for east Timor. Joined moi's govt and the rest is history. Dr. Wilfred Koinange of goldenberg and that other Harvard educated economist who received a msomo from justice bosire during the goldenberg inquiry.
My question is based on the assumption that when you take up a govt job, you are being set up to fail.
I can understand prof githu muigai wanting to serve nyumba, but what about Philip Kinisu? He knows for sure he is being set up to fail. After working on your professional reputation for all these years, why risk it all with a govt job ? Is it worth it ? And poor Nzioka Waita ?
And my second question, why not try to stand out and leave a mark and a legacy ?
Two names here. Brig. Boinett and former CGS Daudi Tonje. Moi must have thought these were fellow tribesmen but each left a mark that changed the institutions they headed for ever. They refused to swim with the tribal tide and thought about posterity and future generations. After the 2002 elections, the clowns from the MoPW refused to build a dias that would accomondate kibaki's wheelchair. Brig. Boinett supervised the construction and made it clear to Moi, he had to respect the people's will.
Uhuru has one in the name of CBK gov Dr. Patrick Njoroge.
Funny enough, I don't remember any name that stood out during kibaki's reign. Arguably our greatest president ever.
Martha Karua If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Working for the government is very lucrative-Even when you are not putting your hands in the cooking Jar.The salary is not so good but the allowances and the working environment is awesome.You also have enough time to run your other businesses and spend time with the family. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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PeterReborn wrote:Working for the government is very lucrative-Even when you are not putting your hands in the cooking Jar.The salary is not so good but the allowances and the working environment is awesome.You also have enough time to run your other businesses and spend time with the family.
But this one of time to run businesses and such is not always true. Mostly depends on your level and which govt section you work in. I have dealt with guys working at some govt offices like KRA n Treasury at relatively high levels and the pressure they go through is mostly worse than even at private sectors. Some of them work damn hard for long hours.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2013 Posts: 640
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The brilliant minds being wasted by politics are more numerous. Its all good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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FRM2011 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:FRM2011 wrote:I have been toying with this question in my mind over and over.
You are a brilliant chap, at the pinnacle of your professional path, and then you take up a govt job that undoes all you have built over the years. Examples may suffice.
Amos wako was an internationally recognized lawyer who once served as UN special rapporteur for east Timor. Joined moi's govt and the rest is history. Dr. Wilfred Koinange of goldenberg and that other Harvard educated economist who received a msomo from justice bosire during the goldenberg inquiry.
My question is based on the assumption that when you take up a govt job, you are being set up to fail.
I can understand prof githu muigai wanting to serve nyumba, but what about Philip Kinisu? He knows for sure he is being set up to fail. After working on your professional reputation for all these years, why risk it all with a govt job ? Is it worth it ? And poor Nzioka Waita ?
And my second question, why not try to stand out and leave a mark and a legacy ?
Two names here. Brig. Boinett and former CGS Daudi Tonje. Moi must have thought these were fellow tribesmen but each left a mark that changed the institutions they headed for ever. They refused to swim with the tribal tide and thought about posterity and future generations. After the 2002 elections, the clowns from the MoPW refused to build a dias that would accomondate kibaki's wheelchair. Brig. Boinett supervised the construction and made it clear to Moi, he had to respect the people's will.
Uhuru has one in the name of CBK gov Dr. Patrick Njoroge.
Funny enough, I don't remember any name that stood out during kibaki's reign. Arguably our greatest president ever.
People are hungry for lucrative tender and bribe money. Don't think educated people hawana tamaa. @mikeock I was hoping there is a small group doesn't need bribe money. The few who are driven by a different set of values than the rest of us. No ? The difference between human DNA and chimpanzee DNA is 2%. To understand humans, study the 98% 
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Mike Ock wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Mike Ock wrote:FRM2011 wrote:I have been toying with this question in my mind over and over.
You are a brilliant chap, at the pinnacle of your professional path, and then you take up a govt job that undoes all you have built over the years. Examples may suffice.
Amos wako was an internationally recognized lawyer who once served as UN special rapporteur for east Timor. Joined moi's govt and the rest is history. Dr. Wilfred Koinange of goldenberg and that other Harvard educated economist who received a msomo from justice bosire during the goldenberg inquiry.
My question is based on the assumption that when you take up a govt job, you are being set up to fail.
I can understand prof githu muigai wanting to serve nyumba, but what about Philip Kinisu? He knows for sure he is being set up to fail. After working on your professional reputation for all these years, why risk it all with a govt job ? Is it worth it ? And poor Nzioka Waita ?
And my second question, why not try to stand out and leave a mark and a legacy ?
Two names here. Brig. Boinett and former CGS Daudi Tonje. Moi must have thought these were fellow tribesmen but each left a mark that changed the institutions they headed for ever. They refused to swim with the tribal tide and thought about posterity and future generations. After the 2002 elections, the clowns from the MoPW refused to build a dias that would accomondate kibaki's wheelchair. Brig. Boinett supervised the construction and made it clear to Moi, he had to respect the people's will.
Uhuru has one in the name of CBK gov Dr. Patrick Njoroge.
Funny enough, I don't remember any name that stood out during kibaki's reign. Arguably our greatest president ever.
People are hungry for lucrative tender and bribe money. Don't think educated people hawana tamaa. @mikeock I was hoping there is a small group doesn't need bribe money. The few who are driven by a different set of values than the rest of us. No ? The difference between human DNA and chimpanzee DNA is 2%. To understand humans, study the 98% 
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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Allowances and job security........my peers working at the lands get paid allowances of 11k per day for nights spent out of Nairobi.............averagely 7 days a week wako field!!!! not bad your young professionals Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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While the government might have employed the brilliant, it seems not to have employed the wise.
Apparently, the trend may be that due to a dearth of wisdom the mass man goes for the shine of his ego. And thinks brilliance is a virtue.
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