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The KenolKobil 2015 pendulum
Aguytrying
#681 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:30:10 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Kausha @AGuy - When do we feast? I think 2018 is the year of the takeover. 20?

Going by what happened in tz and congo,a deal can be concluded silently until the last stages


20 easy by 2018 as long as not a bear market. Eps will be comfortably at 2.00 by then. I'm not so jazzed for takeover coz I like holding the stock of this good company. I feel it could keep doing better as the years go by. But if they do sell, fine.
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VituVingiSana
#682 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:32:24 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Kausha @AGuy - When do we feast? I think 2018 is the year of the takeover. 20?

Going by what happened in tz and congo,a deal can be concluded silently until the last stages


20 easy by 2018 as long as not a bear market. Eps will be comfortably at 2.00 by then. I'm not so jazzed for takeover coz I like holding the stock of this good company. I feel it could keep doing better as the years go by. But if they do sell, fine.

I think 2/- will be achieved (or exceeded) in FY 2017 ceteris paribus. KK is paying a dividend of 500mn for FY 2015 otherwise the debt would be paid down even sooner!
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mlennyma
#683 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:03:10 AM
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There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#684 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:13:18 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.


A fair value of a company is not measured in terms of its EP is just a component. I think a true picture is weighed on critical analysis on the balance sheet i.e how the company is financed. Dividend yield is also a strong yard stick and P/E ratio amongst other factors are key ingredients of assessing the financial strength of an establishment.

A combination of fundamentals is the way to go!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mlennyma
#685 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:20:33 AM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.


A fair value of a company is not measured in terms of its EP is just a component. I think a true picture is weighed on critical analysis on the balance sheet i.e how the company is financed. Dividend yield is also a strong yard stick and P/E ratio amongst other factors are key ingredients of assessing the financial strength of an establishment.

A combination of fundamentals is the way to go!

don't you think we have this components? smile ...is carbacid which has never seen a billion better than us?
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Spikes
#686 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:24:50 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.


A fair value of a company is not measured in terms of its EP is just a component. I think a true picture is weighed on critical analysis on the balance sheet i.e how the company is financed. Dividend yield is also a strong yard stick and P/E ratio amongst other factors are key ingredients of assessing the financial strength of an establishment.

A combination of fundamentals is the way to go!

don't you think we have this components? smile


Yes! You have almost all of them. I am patient waiting till Mr. market tanks, bear drowns KK to 8/- before I jump in wholly!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#687 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:23:35 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.



I can see KK is losing upward capabilities! Pull the trigger those who bought sub 10/-
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mlennyma
#688 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 12:55:31 PM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
There are so many companies with earnings per share less than 1bob but the share price is way above kk,its time we demand for a better price,stop selling at throw away.



I can see KK is losing upward capabilities! Pull the trigger those who bought sub 10/-

the action Keeps coming back when we think the dust is settling ,however one thing is confirmed that sellers are many around 11.40 and above
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mlennyma
#689 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:05:02 PM
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Heavy weights showdown on site 6m traded
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VituVingiSana
#690 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:06:50 PM
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Bring me those discounted KK shares!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#691 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:07:08 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Heavy weights showdown on site 6m traded


Big boys mesmerizing the show.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mlennyma
#692 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:10:47 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Bring me those discounted KK shares!

this stock is no longer cheap and if you get some invite me i don't mind adding more
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Golden_Arrow
#693 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:58:01 PM
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hah! still waiting for 8 Bob?
Spikes
#694 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:03:09 PM
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Golden_Arrow wrote:
hah! still waiting for 8 Bob?


Just one bear bite will leave it wobbling from its highs of 11 plus to sub 8/-. Be patient till the big boys withdraw support and KK will have no more upward option than to succumb to tyrannical forces of gravity.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#695 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:01:04 PM
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Spikes wrote:
Golden_Arrow wrote:
hah! still waiting for 8 Bob?


Just one bear bite will leave it wobbling from its highs of 11 plus to sub 8/-. Be patient till the big boys withdraw support and KK will have no more upward option than to succumb to tyrannical forces of gravity.


*YAWN* ... OK.

9.55mn shares traded. 53% net buying by foreigners.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#696 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:41:58 PM
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Very healthy volume seen in the last few days.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mlennyma
#697 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:08:19 PM
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murchr wrote:
Very healthy volume seen in the last few days.

Value
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mlennyma
#698 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2016 12:44:37 PM
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After results, we have found a new home 10.50 - 11.50 any changes expected during books close and weeks before H1 sometimes in August however any good news like debt free will keep us afloat,
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VituVingiSana
#699 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:04:12 PM
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The new KK is minting cash. An ad about 4/- discounts on fuel in Loresho and Limuru Rd.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#700 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:55:29 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
The new KK is minting cash. An ad about 4/- discounts on fuel in Loresho and Limuru Rd.


Yeah. And I'm glad the noise levels and scrutiny from wazua has subsided. Those playing the pendulum must be wondering if there's a new swing
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