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Impunity
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:48:35 PM
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Eti CORD would have avoided the aibu of OKOA kenya signature mess by simply going through article 256 and not the popular-driven article 257...eti at the end of the day they pass through the same approval process in the final stages,the parliament.

I beg to differ.

Though @baba read it for me (and I still voted NO for it by the way), my understanding is this:

Article 256:
If parliament refuses to pass the Bill, then its dead and burried.
And by the way if parliament passes the Bill, it will still be subjected to the referendum if the Bill to amend the Constitution proposes an amendment
relating to a matter mentioned in Article 255 (1).

Article 257:
If parliament fails to pass the Bill, then its subjected to the people through referendum by force.

So a referendum was unavoidable in either of the routes (256 or 257), but in one route, the tyranny of fools could stifle the process while the other it was left to the people to decide.

#Wapi @maka, @mukiha and the 2pm gang?


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Impunity
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:10:42 PM
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Kenyans are tired to read katiba.
No response yet, just waiting for Baba and Duale to read for them.

I have posted the katiba here for you.

Katiba here
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tycho
#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:42:56 PM
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Avoiding the signature mess may be having nothing to do with the constitution but with the quality of political action that the party engages in.

It seems the connection between the masses and the leadership is weak and relies on appearance than real and collective action.
Lolest!
#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 4:27:01 PM
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They could still have relied on Article 255
1) A proposed amendment to this Constitution shall be enacted in accordance with Article 256 or 257, and approved in accordance with clause (2) by a referendum, if the amendment relates to any of the following matters–--
(a) the supremacy of this Constitution;
(b) the territory of Kenya;
(c) the sovereignty of the people;
(d) the national values and principles of governance referred to in Article 10 (2) (a) to (d);
(e) the Bill of Rights;
(f) the term of office of the President;
(g) the independence of the Judiciary and the commissions and independent offices to which Chapter Fifteen applies;
(h) the functions of Parliament;
(i) the objects, principles and structure of devolved government; or
(j) the provisions of this Chapter.


Si the referendum was to touch on counties and senate powers?
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