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OKOA Kenya - CORD demands
harrydre
#271 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:13:11 PM
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Location: Kanjo
Lolest! wrote:
hardwood wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

who said they verified signatures? when you do eliminations until under 1M - there is no point of engaging resources to verify signatures. I actually don't think they have digitized signatures seated somewhere... ziko kwa zile hardcopies.


And that was my point since i suspect cord "signed on behalf of" many people. I understand they collected most of the names and ID nos from Mpesa shops. Genuine signatures could only have been 20k. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that I am one those who "signed" for okoa (without their knowledge).

MPesa register these days doesnt have a place for name. Just ID


you can get the name from the monthly statement sent by safaricom, so with both the register and the statement, you can create the list per IEBC requirements. Every agent receives the statement monthly. They were buying them for 5k per book.
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masukuma
#272 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:13:52 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
githundi wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
hardwood wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

who said they verified signatures? when you do eliminations until under 1M - there is no point of engaging resources to verify signatures. I actually don't think they have digitized signatures seated somewhere... ziko kwa zile hardcopies.


And that was my point since i suspect cord "signed on behalf of" many people. I understand they collected most of the names and ID nos from Mpesa shops. Genuine signatures could only have been 20k. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that I am one those who "signed" for okoa (without their knowledge).

MPesa register these days doesnt have a place for name. Just ID

They used to have. ..until referendum issues kicked in..Shame on you

show of hands... who here thinks CORD does not have a copy of the register with both names & ID numbers or cannot get access to one with names and ID numbers?
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hardwood
#273 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:23:25 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
githundi wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
hardwood wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

who said they verified signatures? when you do eliminations until under 1M - there is no point of engaging resources to verify signatures. I actually don't think they have digitized signatures seated somewhere... ziko kwa zile hardcopies.


And that was my point since i suspect cord "signed on behalf of" many people. I understand they collected most of the names and ID nos from Mpesa shops. Genuine signatures could only have been 20k. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that I am one those who "signed" for okoa (without their knowledge).

MPesa register these days doesnt have a place for name. Just ID

They used to have. ..until referendum issues kicked in..Shame on you

Yep. They used the old mpesa books that had names and ID nos. Then put fake signatures. Otherwise how do you explain that I am on their okoa list while I never signed. I should sue baba for stealing my data, and spoiling my name by associating me with okoa. He should pay me 5m as damages.
Risasi Sufuri
#274 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:36:29 PM
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Joined: 12/8/2015
Posts: 166
Okoa Kenya now is considering Okoa Jahazi for the Okoa Signature Top up.....
thuks
#275 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:07:16 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
This is a killer blow to democracy when the sole competitor cannot win the race
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harrydre
#276 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:24:05 AM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
IEBC to address issues raised by CORD today. They should spill all the beans.
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alma1
#277 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:22:25 AM
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Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
thuks wrote:
This is a killer blow to democracy when the sole competitor cannot win the race



Ohh come on. If the sole competitor is so inept, what do you expect?

It's like those boys who see pussy for the first time and mwaga hapo hapo. Next they post on facebook how Njunge is a sponsor.
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washiku
#278 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:44:14 AM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
alma1 wrote:
thuks wrote:
This is a killer blow to democracy when the sole competitor cannot win the race



Ohh come on. If the sole competitor is so inept, what do you expect?

It's like those boys who see pussy for the first time and mwaga hapo hapo. Next they post on facebook how Njunge is a sponsor.


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whiteowl
#279 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:50:40 AM
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Joined: 4/16/2014
Posts: 1,420
Location: Bohemian Grove
washiku wrote:
alma1 wrote:
thuks wrote:
This is a killer blow to democracy when the sole competitor cannot win the race



Ohh come on. If the sole competitor is so inept, what do you expect?

It's like those boys who see pussy for the first time and mwaga hapo hapo. Next they post on facebook how Njunge is a sponsor.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
thuks
#280 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:16:12 PM
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Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
whiteowl wrote:
washiku wrote:
alma1 wrote:
thuks wrote:
This is a killer blow to democracy when the sole competitor cannot win the race



Ohh come on. If the sole competitor is so inept, what do you expect?

It's like those boys who see pussy for the first time and mwaga hapo hapo. Next they post on facebook how Njunge is a sponsor.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly
It's worse than i thought

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