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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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@Thitifini: With 1KD? Let me know how it goes. Curious to see how they will do the electricals and exhaust system. Does the cost factor a new ECU?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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Hello matatu veterans. I am interested in joining the matatu industry, long distance, 14 seater to be precise. To do this, i understand that I will need a "box". I am not a rich guy, and so I want to start at the bottom. My budget cannot allow me to purchase a new hiace. Therefore, my question is, can I get a hiace "box", KCA and above at less than 1.4 million and without engine or gearbox problems? Is my budget realistic? I often believe that the best tool is the cheapest tool that can do the job. I am a beginner in this sector, and the 1.4 million budget is from my savings, no loan. Kindly advise.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:Hello matatu veterans. I am interested in joining the matatu industry, long distance, 14 seater to be precise. To do this, i understand that I will need a "box". I am not a rich guy, and so I want to start at the bottom. My budget cannot allow me to purchase a new hiace. Therefore, my question is, can I get a hiace "box", KCA and above at less than 1.4 million and without engine or gearbox problems? Is my budget realistic? I often believe that the best tool is the cheapest tool that can do the job. I am a beginner in this sector, and the 1.4 million budget is from my savings, no loan. Kindly advise. What is the selling price of the used vehicles you have come across that can be of interest to you? If you cannot answer that then please do not buy one, your money will be safer elsewhere.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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matatuman wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:Hello matatu veterans. I am interested in joining the matatu industry, long distance, 14 seater to be precise. To do this, i understand that I will need a "box". I am not a rich guy, and so I want to start at the bottom. My budget cannot allow me to purchase a new hiace. Therefore, my question is, can I get a hiace "box", KCA and above at less than 1.4 million and without engine or gearbox problems? Is my budget realistic? I often believe that the best tool is the cheapest tool that can do the job. I am a beginner in this sector, and the 1.4 million budget is from my savings, no loan. Kindly advise. What is the selling price of the used vehicles you have come across that can be of interest to you? If you cannot answer that then please do not buy one, your money will be safer elsewhere. Hehehe....hebu kwanza ingia tu olx or any other site and do some window shopping. Just to give you a rough idea of prevailing prices. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/5/2013 Posts: 224
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@Thitifini
Get in touch matatuman123 at gmail dot com
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Rank: Hello Joined: 8/24/2014 Posts: 5
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@junior121121 how can I contact you
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Rank: Hello Joined: 1/23/2016 Posts: 4 Location: Nairobi
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junior121121 wrote:TeamW wrote:Hi Guys,
I would like to introduce you to Energym Fabricators (www.energym.co.ke). We are the new kids on the block :) and our first vehicle is the new sensational All Blacks plying Rongai route...probably the best Mat in Nbi right now, if not in KE. We own several 33-Seaters and formed Energym after being totally disappointed by the works of the major players in the industry. Most of them do mass fabrication with very cheap poor quality materials and give you timelines that they never keep. Our first Mat was done by Dodi...was supposed to take 45-60 Days BUT ended up taking 6 Months!!!!!!...and it may have taken longer, was it not for the shameless 'Kitu Kidogos' that the workers asked for daily. A few months on the road, the vehicle started falling apart...with leakages, windows breaking. So after having to take it back for 'Riko' we have spent almost 6.5M on that vehicle which was basic!!!.. We found out ommisions of certain materials e.g. Roof by Dodi...really really unprofessional.
At Energym, we intend to change this!!. We don't do mass Fabrication!! Our policy is one Vehicle at a time. We do the work in 60 days!. Furthermore, we offer flexible payment solutions to our esteemed clients. For instance, after the client buys the Chassis at 3.5M, he pays about 1M for Fabrication of a basic Bus, then the rest in interest-free installments for 6-12 months. This is because we are also in the industry and understand the needs, problems and challenges of Matatu owners. With our offer, Clients are able to focus on getting the returns on their investment as soon as possible. Feel free to contact us.
@Junior121121..how can we get the contacts of the Kalasinga offering loans???
.and btw, for the new or potential investors, the figures presented by Junior121121 are on point and reflect our own experience... @Team W - you have a great vehicle on the road - have seen it and I like the finish. I don't do too much work to my matatus (Body wise) but would like to visit you guys next week - are you working on a car? I completely agree on Dodi - that's why i stopped working with them. The first car took me 5 months - not acceptable. Send me your email and i will send you khalasingas mobile number. @Junior121121...Pole..forgot/misplaced my Wazua password..it took days to get a new one issued and I also got busy in between. At the moment, we are not working on any vehicle. We are moving our site to a different place. We have a vehicle scheduled towards July..Feel free to contact Jerry..details on energym website. Please send us the Kalsingas details on weusiwote@gmail.com. How does iit work with him?..what are the securities he requires?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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Asking for a friend...anyone here with a diesel HiAce and a petrol HiAce...is there a difference in the amount your drivers deliver in a normal working day? The price differences are huge...what is the catch?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:Hello matatu veterans. I am interested in joining the matatu industry, long distance, 14 seater to be precise. To do this, i understand that I will need a "box". I am not a rich guy, and so I want to start at the bottom. My budget cannot allow me to purchase a new hiace. Therefore, my question is, can I get a hiace "box", KCA and above at less than 1.4 million and without engine or gearbox problems? Is my budget realistic? I often believe that the best tool is the cheapest tool that can do the job. I am a beginner in this sector, and the 1.4 million budget is from my savings, no loan. Kindly advise. KCA ni gari mpya boss "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:Asking for a friend...anyone here with a diesel HiAce and a petrol HiAce...is there a difference in the amount your drivers deliver in a normal working day? The price differences are huge...what is the catch? You mean you've already acquired 2 "BOXes", one diesel and the R other petrol? The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/7/2016 Posts: 79 Location: Home
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jerry wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:Asking for a friend...anyone here with a diesel HiAce and a petrol HiAce...is there a difference in the amount your drivers deliver in a normal working day? The price differences are huge...what is the catch? You mean you've already acquired 2 "BOXes", one diesel and the R other petrol? No Jerry. I have no Box. I am just asking for a friend who wishes to buy one. Now, kindly answer the question.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 571
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Mkondoa Macho wrote:jerry wrote:Mkondoa Macho wrote:Asking for a friend...anyone here with a diesel HiAce and a petrol HiAce...is there a difference in the amount your drivers deliver in a normal working day? The price differences are huge...what is the catch? You mean you've already acquired 2 "BOXes", one diesel and the R other petrol? No Jerry. I have no Box. I am just asking for a friend who wishes to buy one. Now, kindly answer the question. I used to own a Hiace Box,diesel.The difference is in fuel consumption.Diesel box is more fuel efficient and diesel is also cheaper.The diesel ones are turbo charged unlike the petrol ones.The disel box helps a long way in lowering your fuel costs.However,what matters most is what type of crew you have.Lots of touts/drivers and traffic policemen will drive you to the cleaners;like they did to me{lol}.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/20/2008 Posts: 83
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subaru wrote:junior121121 wrote:tnai9 wrote:junior121121 wrote:
@nia9 – thanks. Be encouraged. It’s a business that can make you money. I was lucky to get some guidance. To answer your questions
1)New complete mat is either 4.3/4.7 which is for NPR/NQR. You can get slightly cheaper if you buy chasis and give to bodybuilder (I prefer CFG as opposed to the others as they have a sturdy body). KCI is the best though but a lot more expensive. With regards to mannyanga – can go up to 6m (Really depends on what you wanna do – I have seen one that even has business class seats in Rongai )
* My advise – KISS. Keep it simple stupid. Go overboard on your third or fourth mat. For your first one just get some airbrushing and music – budget about 200k
2) Supped up one makes more as mentioned earlier. They don’t line up so can do more “squads”
3) You can finance with the banks (NIC best) or other bank. Two others are looking to join and make it happen so look into it.
4)There is no such thing as “stress free management” – even Buffet/Gates don’t have this. You need to find a good manager. The SACCOS will not do this for you. They will assist with TLB’s/ cops to an extent/ insurance claims etc but not day to day management of your vehicles. Get involved in your first year. I have a full time job and manage but you need to be able to tell the “stories” from the truth. Whats more you get to know the other owners on your route – we really tend to help each other out.
 This is so so encouraging and invaluable. I got a partner already, a friend we have been discussing this biz and procrastinating but we have to do it now- met yesterday. He is kinda versed as he has two shuttles already + your invaluable info here really encouraged me to go it. Thinking diversification and already have a sketch of what we will do. We wont manage raising all the 5M so will do part financing. Do you know anything about Choda fabricators? Good stuff. Go for it. I don't know about Choda. I have some from Dodi and rest from CFG - CFG a lot better. i have seen many people either with kci or cfg is cfg cheaper tham kci ? Who has experience with LSHS or Masters in regard to quality building of basic 33 seater buses under the GM plans. How long (actual) does it take? I intend to plunge myself into this sector very soon, to learn as I make money
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/20/2008 Posts: 83
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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This is interesting. TH503579 http://www.beforward.jp/...0318_ThailandStock_Kenya The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/9/2015 Posts: 56
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kanyimwa wrote:subaru wrote:junior121121 wrote:tnai9 wrote:junior121121 wrote:
@nia9 – thanks. Be encouraged. It’s a business that can make you money. I was lucky to get some guidance. To answer your questions
1)New complete mat is either 4.3/4.7 which is for NPR/NQR. You can get slightly cheaper if you buy chasis and give to bodybuilder (I prefer CFG as opposed to the others as they have a sturdy body). KCI is the best though but a lot more expensive. With regards to mannyanga – can go up to 6m (Really depends on what you wanna do – I have seen one that even has business class seats in Rongai )
* My advise – KISS. Keep it simple stupid. Go overboard on your third or fourth mat. For your first one just get some airbrushing and music – budget about 200k
2) Supped up one makes more as mentioned earlier. They don’t line up so can do more “squads”
3) You can finance with the banks (NIC best) or other bank. Two others are looking to join and make it happen so look into it.
4)There is no such thing as “stress free management” – even Buffet/Gates don’t have this. You need to find a good manager. The SACCOS will not do this for you. They will assist with TLB’s/ cops to an extent/ insurance claims etc but not day to day management of your vehicles. Get involved in your first year. I have a full time job and manage but you need to be able to tell the “stories” from the truth. Whats more you get to know the other owners on your route – we really tend to help each other out.
This is so so encouraging and invaluable. I got a partner already, a friend we have been discussing this biz and procrastinating but we have to do it now- met yesterday. He is kinda versed as he has two shuttles already + your invaluable info here really encouraged me to go it. Thinking diversification and already have a sketch of what we will do. We wont manage raising all the 5M so will do part financing. Do you know anything about Choda fabricators? Good stuff. Go for it. I don't know about Choda. I have some from Dodi and rest from CFG - CFG a lot better. i have seen many people either with kci or cfg is cfg cheaper tham kci ? Who has experience with LSHS or Masters in regard to quality building of basic 33 seater buses under the GM plans. How long (actual) does it take? I intend to plunge myself into this sector very soon, to learn as I make money I am - their body work takes longer than KCI and CFG and the body is slightly heavier. I believe schools and institutions like them due to the availability of financing(looks interesting). Cant complain as much as it is better than Dodi and not that far off from CFG (Although i find CFG and KCI looking better) Good luck on your journey
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Rank: Hello Joined: 1/7/2016 Posts: 6 Location: Wolverhampton
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Hello all,
Been in the biz for four months now. Except for the kidogo cop hustles, nothing much to complain, though the av. on our route is not as good as elsewhere.
Now, if I were to get another unit, would I save a bit if I go to CFG as opposed to KCI who made my first one? And by how much for those who have experience?
Another question, some crew from my route say that the smaller Nissans are doing well, at half the income of the bus but at a third of the cost. Older operating Nissans appear costly, yet newer ones especially petrol engines can be found at 1.2 m.
Wazuans in the hustle, would I be in order to consider the petrol engine (2000) and what are the draw backs?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 244 Location: Thika
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A friend told me that I could import a "box" for 1.6 million (petrol) and for 2.1 million for a diesel. My question to the veterans is whether the 500k price difference is warranted. Is it worth paying over 500k more for a diesel vehicle? Are the daily returns for a diesel vehicle 30% higher than those of a petrol vehicle, because evidently, the price is more than 30% higher. Since men have learned to shoot without missing, I have learned to fly without perching
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/29/2016 Posts: 11 Location: Nairobi
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Hi good people..i recently revamped my dads stalled matatu reg KAK...bt realised it is not as powerful as it should, it struggles alot even on the smallest uphill climbs..what could be the problem? i have changed plugs, clutch and had the engine checked..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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Winwin wrote:Hello all,
Been in the biz for four months now. Except for the kidogo cop hustles, nothing much to complain, though the av. on our route is not as good as elsewhere.
Now, if I were to get another unit, would I save a bit if I go to CFG as opposed to KCI who made my first one? And by how much for those who have experience?
Another question, some crew from my route say that the smaller Nissans are doing well, at half the income of the bus but at a third of the cost. Older operating Nissans appear costly, yet newer ones especially petrol engines can be found at 1.2 m.
Wazuans in the hustle, would I be in order to consider the petrol engine (2000) and what are the draw backs? Waiting for the answer to the last questio i.e. suitability of 2000cc "BOX" as a matatu. There is a Star Times KCB going for 1.3M. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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