Seemingly the local tribunal route is closed as Parliament,at the behest of leading suspects,will forever shoot down such a prospect.

Ocampo should then be telling us when the summons will be out.

Tumbili waanze kuhara.
Kinyezi nyepesi ya kijani kibichi.
Na miti iteleze pia.

Ocampo; get cracking.

B.timer

@ Njunge,following you on this matter,I can tell you really want justice to prevail over the PEV and maybe prior to that. I do too.

But in my opinion,if you see many pigs pressing for the Hague option,it could be very well a conspiracy.

Watch the space between now and say seven years later. I will continue to insist that ICC option remains a marginalised preoccupation.

The local tribunal stands to be a lesser evil,in as far as letting people with blood on their fingers go scot free is considered evil-rightly so.

But this is just an opinion that I own.


Everyday!

Mr. Njunge,I keep asking you,if Kenyas parliament overules the findings of wako,and declares them faulty,and asserts Kenyans sovereignity,how will Ocampo get the accused to the hague?
1. Our police will recieve no order to arrest them,or will he give it to them? so how will he catch them,10 prominent Kenyans spreadout allover? Will he set up a new police force in Kenya to go hunt for these guys?
2. Several African and developing countries protested over this style of patronising behaviour by UN and other international agencies with regards to their institutions (remember the drama over the UN specioal rapporteur Prof. Alston),if Kenya rules that it is capable of running its own things,it will get overwhelming support and the idea of hague will be trashed on the same international platform.
Please forget this obsession with Ocampo Mr.Njunge,if you want peaceful sleep and more viable solutions. Forget that lousy bearded Ocampo fello,he is a whimp!

Thanks
Prof.J.T.Ouma

ODM

Juvenile insults asides,

Who is charged with a crime against humanity? When the claims are faulted,he does not need to arrest them if he is going to
1. Try them in absentia
2. Wait for the to die and carry out a posthumous trial.
Maybe you should advice Ocampo how to try ElBashir,the same blacks he has been slaughtering decalre him innocent.

Prof.J.T.Ouma

ODM

The laws judiciary follows are made by parliament or 'the people'. The judiciary simply hears and makes rulings. Law enforcement is an executive proponent usually carried out by police,the 'Law enforcement officers'. Do i need to lecture you on governement? In anycase the judiciary is not an absolute authority. Mr. Real Shaft,forget the Hague if you are to sleep.

When Ruto said 'twende hague' he was mocking people like you. Hague is an absurd joke in this case,although it sounds nice. Hague! Hague! Hague! has a nice ring to it,not so? dont be seduced by the sound of the word.

If you want any justice in this issue,it is going to have to happen here,clear and simple.

Thanks
Prof

ODM

Mr. Ngalaka,lets put aside the intricate arguments and try to apply a little wisdom,OK.

All the well meaning people involved in this thing have asked for a local tribunal. Anan insists on one even after the expiry of the Wako deadline,he has studied the situation with the benefit of a strong team of advisors. Kibaki and Raila as well as Martha Karua insist on one,they have strong advisors too and opinions on the issue. Ruto and others now yell 'the hague'. I can assure you once Obama reveals his well thought opinion,he will push for a trial at home. Why?

Only a trial at home will suffice,i can use a whole 10 pages trying to show you why,but what does simple wisdom tell you here......follow the way of the wise,those who have passed this route before

Lets not unnecessarily split views and argue on what should be a consensus to the issue at hand for us to move forward.

Thanks
Prof

ODM

Ladies and Gentlemen,

One thing is for sure; that we want to see the perpetrators of the PEV tried and punished for crimes against humanity. What differs here is our prefered route to it.

Waki,Ocampo,Annan,Obama,Raila and many other Kenyans favour the establishment of local tribunal to try the suspects. These are all people of wisdomand I too agree with this position.

However,the worry most Kenyans have and I share the same sentiments is impunity and interference by the state machinery and the fatcats. These may derail the efforts no justice being done at the end. We saw this in the initial attempt at Parliament to establish this tribunal. We have seen commissions of enquiries spend billions of tax payers money and nothing done. We do know how the justice system works in this country and we are not keen to have them handle such a sensitive issue. Moreso majority of the suspects are in the current parliament and holding senior positions or are in the state security machinery at senior positions. A different regime would probably handle the trials better the current. How can they try and convict themselves??

The trial in Iraq took place under a different regime,and so is Rwanda. Even Al Bashir may be tried at home by another regime.

These are our fears which inform the overwhelming support for the Hague option. Not that it is the best,but atleast it is better than our local systems.