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KCB FY 2015 PBT +12% and PAT +16%
VituVingiSana
#61 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 12:14:38 AM
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murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#62 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 12:44:56 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#63 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 1:54:42 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
Are you serious?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#64 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 3:43:58 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
Are you serious?


About what?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
murchr
#65 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:41:40 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
obiero
#66 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:53:42 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,226
Location: nairobi
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
Are you serious?


About what?

One has to wonder how @vvs invests without macro knowledge

ngapat
#67 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 8:37:51 AM
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Posts: 930
kcb hints at buying stakes in Baclays

www.standardmedia.co.ke/...buying-stake-in-barclays
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delllatitude
#68 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 8:40:04 AM
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Joined: 8/29/2010
Posts: 11
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4


How do people arrive at this 84% devaluation figure? I thought the currency moved from 3.16 to 18 therefore the devaluation being >400%

Anyway, from Q4, the currency has lost value by 122% to the dollar. Business there will be very tricky and I expect major reorganisations in order to survive.
VituVingiSana
#69 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:26:10 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
Are you serious?


About what?

One has to wonder how @vvs invests without macro knowledge

Kizungu ilikuja na meli.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#70 Posted : Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:51:54 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Something is not kosher according to @sang252 and you know he asks questions on matters others do not even know exist. I can't "picture" his tweet.

1) Why are all the SS translation losses of 6.1bn going below the line? [Permanent impairment]
2) SS showed a profit for 1Q 2Q 3Q. Have these profits [which were really profits with the devaluation] been reversed in 4Q?


SSP the SS currency was heavily devalued(from 3.06 to +18 to the USD) in Q4,.. translation of the SS balance sheet would explain said impairment


I expected Sunil to have been more aware of that, business in SS will be tricky till those 2 leaders are dethroned
Aware of what?


South Sudan devalued its currency by 84 percent in Q4
Are you serious?


About what?

Are you serious that you think @sang252 didn't take into account the devaluation?
The question @Sang252 posed, if you tried to understand it wasn't about the impairment but its accounting treatment.


One has to wonder how @vvs invests without macro knowledge

@Obiero - Is Alex no longer whispering sweet nothings in your ears? And no, as you have so ably demonstrated over & over again you are much smarter than me.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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