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masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Science does not claim to have all the answers. Its a process of discovery. New discoveries always build on existing ones. We will keep moving towards knowing all the answers but will never reach the ultimate destination. Like an asymptote for those who remember calculus. There will always be gaps in scientific knowledge. expect some metaphysical nonsense/gibberish from the active people on this forum. Aish yawa what is going on here  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Science does not claim to have all the answers. Its a process of discovery. New discoveries always build on existing ones. We will keep moving towards knowing all the answers but will never reach the ultimate destination. Like an asymptote for those who remember calculus. There will always be gaps in scientific knowledge. expect some metaphysical nonsense/gibberish from the active people on this forum. Aish yawa what is going on here Glass houses.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:Alba wrote:Science does not claim to have all the answers. Its a process of discovery. New discoveries always build on existing ones. We will keep moving towards knowing all the answers but will never reach the ultimate destination. Like an asymptote for those who remember calculus. There will always be gaps in scientific knowledge. expect some metaphysical nonsense/gibberish from the active people on this forum. Hahaha! Once emotional words come in, straight thinking goes out of the window. @Alba, it's not just scientific knowledge that's limited ALL human knowledge will always be limited. By the way @masukuma, it's the incompleteness of knowledge that necessitates 'metaphysics'. met·a·phys·ics /ˌmedəˈfiziks/ noun the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance,cause, identity, time, and space. You're even engaging in it... in your 'science'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future  i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....e-not-looking-at-it.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html
Right on cue...like clockwork! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html From @Ash Ock's post - If we accept the simulation hypothesis we also accept that anything is possible and that nothing can be determined...as the extent of the illusion cannot be determined nothing can be determined. We're back to absurdism.Existence is what you choose to believe it is.You could be right and we may never know or you could be wrong and it would be irrelevant.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html From @Ash Ock's post - If we accept the simulation hypothesis we also accept that anything is possible and that nothing can be determined...as the extent of the illusion cannot be determined nothing can be determined. We're back to absurdism.Existence is what you choose to believe it is.You could be right and we may never know or you could be wrong and it would be irrelevant. There's one thing that can be determined; subjective experience. And this to me, excludes absurdism.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html
Right on cue...like clockwork! I can bear your emotional outbursts because I know that people don't have to be consistent at all times, and I'm not looking for some 'objective' truth to keep me safe and warm. So argumenta ad hominem and expletives even from professional fools are most welcome.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2007 Posts: 38
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.. might as well ask 'what is bigger than space? or what came before time?"
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html From @Ash Ock's post - If we accept the simulation hypothesis we also accept that anything is possible and that nothing can be determined... as the extent of the illusion cannot be determined nothing can be determined. We're back to absurdism.Existence is what you choose to believe it is.You could be right and we may never know or you could be wrong and it would be irrelevant. There's one thing that can be determined; subjective experience. And this to me, excludes absurdism. An absurdist can believe absurdism doesn't 'exist'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html From @Ash Ock's post - If we accept the simulation hypothesis we also accept that anything is possible and that nothing can be determined... as the extent of the illusion cannot be determined nothing can be determined. We're back to absurdism.Existence is what you choose to believe it is.You could be right and we may never know or you could be wrong and it would be irrelevant. There's one thing that can be determined; subjective experience. And this to me, excludes absurdism. An absurdist can believe absurdism doesn't 'exist'. Yeah. Possibilities are infinite especially given 'equivocation'.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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How big the universe is? Well, the universe is everything and all the 'nothingness' beyond this everything, hence it's infinite.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:harrydre wrote:so if we can travel faster than light, then we can live in the future There's neither past nor future. When we use such terms we're just creating convenient metaphors to live with our sense limitations. tycho wrote:'How big the universe is' is a myth we are trying to create. There's nothing like 'universe' in or by itself. Another illusion and myth is that of a 'person'; or in this case 'scientist'. In my estimation the 'greatest' realization is that experience must be appropriated and molded into subjective ideals and desires not for any other reason, but to 'satisfice' the pressures of momentary existence... a breath of a 'lifetime'. http://themindunleashed....-not-looking-at-it.html From @Ash Ock's post - If we accept the simulation hypothesis we also accept that anything is possible and that nothing can be determined... as the extent of the illusion cannot be determined nothing can be determined. We're back to absurdism.Existence is what you choose to believe it is.You could be right and we may never know or you could be wrong and it would be irrelevant. There's one thing that can be determined; subjective experience. And this to me, excludes absurdism. An absurdist can believe absurdism doesn't 'exist'. Yeah. Possibilities are infinite especially given 'equivocation'. lol.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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..and if the universe is infinite, space is limitless as well. If space has no end,time has no end.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:..and if the universe is infinite, space is limitless as well. If space has no end,time has no end. And therefore ....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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tycho wrote:limanika wrote:..and if the universe is infinite, space is limitless as well. If space has no end,time has no end. And therefore .... ...Eternity is real
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:..and if the universe is infinite, space is limitless as well. If space has no end,time has no end. And therefore .... ...Eternity is real Whatever conclusion an intelligent agent reaches can only be evaluated when it's tested in it's social context and ecosystem against its needs. Therefore for me the questions that arise are who benefits from the reality of eternity? Who loses? What's changed by such a reality ... how does that affect action in the social context? How does it meet the intelligent requirements that spurred the thought? So you're essentially alone in your thinking and no one can ever validate your thoughts ...
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