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SHIITE vs SUNNI
tycho
#71 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:59:07 PM
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Shia versus Sunni is just a lie to keep people busy. http://www.theguardian.c...ia-iran-alliance-enemies
AlphDoti
#72 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:00:56 AM
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tycho wrote:
Shia versus Sunni is just a lie to keep people busy. http://www.theguardian.c...a-iran-alliance-enemies

Many people are so naive and ignorant. I always tell "them" (people here) that this is POLITICS and POWER. But they don't want to find out facts anymore. All they want is gossip and rumour and mudslinging... And they eagerly go to those sycophants sites. Sad
AlphDoti
#73 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:37:14 AM
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The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.
Anti_Burglar
#74 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:03:07 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.


Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?
AlphDoti
#75 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:38:40 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Anti_Burglar
#76 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:48:45 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.
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#77 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:04:29 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Shia versus Sunni is just a lie to keep people busy. http://www.theguardian.c...a-iran-alliance-enemies

Many people are so naive and ignorant. I always tell "them" (people here) that this is POLITICS and POWER. But they don't want to find out facts anymore. All they want is gossip and rumour and mudslinging... And they eagerly go to those sycophants sites. Sad


Petro-Islam

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The type of Islam favored by petroleum-exporting Muslim-majority countries, particularly the other Gulf monarchies (United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, etc.)—not just Saudi Arabia.


Wahhabism

Alliance with the House of Saud wrote:
The ruler of nearby town, Muhammad ibn Saud, invited ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab to join him, and in 1744 a pact was made between the two. Ibn Saud would protect and propagate the doctrines of the Wahhabi mission, while ibn Abdul Wahhab "would support the ruler, supplying him with 'glory and power.'" Whoever championed his message, ibn Abdul Wahhab promised, "will, by means of it, rule the lands and men."
...
The alliance between the Wahhabi mission and Al Saud family has "endured for more than two and half centuries," surviving defeat and collapse. The two families have intermarried multiple times over the years and in today's Saudi Arabia, the minister of religion is always a member of the Al ash-Sheikh family (i.e. a descendent of Ibn Abdul Wahhab).


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But it was the 1973 oil crisis and quadrupling in the price of oil that both increased the kingdom's wealth astronomically and enhanced its prestige by demonstrating its international power as a leader of OPEC. By 1980, Saudi Arabia was earning every three days the income from oil it had taken a year to earn before the embargo. Tens of billions of dollars of this money were spent on books, media, schools, scholarships for students (from primary to post-graduate), fellowships and subsidies to reward journalists, academics and Islamic scholars, the building of hundreds of Islamic centers and universities, and over one thousand schools and one thousand mosques.


German vice-chancellor accuses Saudi Arabia of funding Islamic extremism in the West

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“We have to make clear to the Saudis that the time of looking away is over,” Mr Gabriel told Bild am Sonntag newspaper in an interview.

“Wahhabi mosques all over the world are financed by Saudi Arabia. Many Islamists who are a threat to public safety come from these communities in Germany.”
AlphDoti
#78 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:18:47 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.

Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft.

I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft?

NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION.
Anti_Burglar
#79 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:42:20 PM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
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AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.

Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft.

I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft?

NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION.


Koran presupposes it has the answer to theft and offers a superficial suggestion that it insists is a solution. Because for one born without hands and has become adept in using other things, theft is still possible.
tycho
#80 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:46:04 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Quote:
The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.

Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft.

I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft?

NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION.


Koran presupposes it has the answer to theft and offers a superficial suggestion that it insists is a solution. Because for one born without hands and has become adept in using other things, theft is still possible.


Haha!
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