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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Impunity wrote:Iganamagana wrote:limanika wrote:If someone could give a bribe of 200m, how much more has he stolen. Considering he has to recover this money, pay expenses of last election and next one, support baba all through, buy enemies all through harambee etc etc This country must be very rich. Eurobond was howc much again? And how much cannot be accounted for? Thats all you need to know. Haiya! Kidero alikula Eurobond?! Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:Impunity wrote:Iganamagana wrote:limanika wrote:If someone could give a bribe of 200m, how much more has he stolen. Considering he has to recover this money, pay expenses of last election and next one, support baba all through, buy enemies all through harambee etc etc This country must be very rich. Eurobond was howc much again? And how much cannot be accounted for? Thats all you need to know. Haiya! Kidero alikula Eurobond?! I think 2M dollars in this age of Tenderprenuership is achievable. Watuhawajawahi uliza why people like uhuru and raila had war chests of between 10 and 12 birrion each? For a jobo that will give them like what...30M a year? Priss... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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Mike Ock wrote:streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran. Masterpiece on economics. One day a tourist comes to the only hotel in a debt ridden town in Kenya. He lays a 100 dollar note on the table & goes to inspect the rooms. Hotel owner takes the note & rushes to pay his debt to the butcher. Butcher runs to pay the pig farmer. Pig farmer runs to pay the feed supplier. Supplier runs to pay the prostitute, who in these hard times gave her services on credit. Prostitute then runs to pay off her debt to the hotel owner for the rooms she rented for her clients. Hotel owner then lays the 100 dollar note back on the counter. The tourist comes down, takes his money & leaves as he did not like the rooms. No one earned anything. But that group of people is now without debt & looks to the future with a lot of optimism. punda amecheka
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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newfarer wrote:Mike Ock wrote:streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran. Masterpiece on economics. One day a tourist comes to the only hotel in a debt ridden town in Kenya. He lays a 100 dollar note on the table & goes to inspect the rooms. Hotel owner takes the note & rushes to pay his debt to the butcher. Butcher runs to pay the pig farmer. Pig farmer runs to pay the feed supplier. Supplier runs to pay the prostitute, who in these hard times gave her services on credit. Prostitute then runs to pay off her debt to the hotel owner for the rooms she rented for her clients. Hotel owner then lays the 100 dollar note back on the counter. The tourist comes down, takes his money & leaves as he did not like the rooms. No one earned anything. But that group of people is now without debt & looks to the future with a lot of optimism. @newfarer. Ulienda shule gani? They are now debt-free. That's their earning. Kwani hizo deni zingejilipa? If you value them now, each is 100$ better off!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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What is the latest form the press conf? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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mkeiy wrote:newfarer wrote:Mike Ock wrote:streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran. Masterpiece on economics. One day a tourist comes to the only hotel in a debt ridden town in Kenya. He lays a 100 dollar note on the table & goes to inspect the rooms. Hotel owner takes the note & rushes to pay his debt to the butcher. Butcher runs to pay the pig farmer. Pig farmer runs to pay the feed supplier. Supplier runs to pay the prostitute, who in these hard times gave her services on credit. Prostitute then runs to pay off her debt to the hotel owner for the rooms she rented for her clients. Hotel owner then lays the 100 dollar note back on the counter. The tourist comes down, takes his money & leaves as he did not like the rooms. No one earned anything. But that group of people is now without debt & looks to the future with a lot of optimism. @newfarer. Ulienda shule gani? They are now debt-free. That's their earning. Kwani hizo deni zingejilipa? If you value them now, each is 100$ better off! @Mkeiyd, newfarer is right and you are wrong, as no value was created, no one really earned anything. And assuming the chain of debtors and creditors represent the whole economy, then no one is better off as their situation has not changed. But it does feel good to starve debt free "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:mkeiy wrote:newfarer wrote:Mike Ock wrote:streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran. Masterpiece on economics. One day a tourist comes to the only hotel in a debt ridden town in Kenya. He lays a 100 dollar note on the table & goes to inspect the rooms. Hotel owner takes the note & rushes to pay his debt to the butcher. Butcher runs to pay the pig farmer. Pig farmer runs to pay the feed supplier. Supplier runs to pay the prostitute, who in these hard times gave her services on credit. Prostitute then runs to pay off her debt to the hotel owner for the rooms she rented for her clients. Hotel owner then lays the 100 dollar note back on the counter. The tourist comes down, takes his money & leaves as he did not like the rooms. No one earned anything. But that group of people is now without debt & looks to the future with a lot of optimism. @newfarer. Ulienda shule gani? They are now debt-free. That's their earning. Kwani hizo deni zingejilipa? If you value them now, each is 100$ better off! @Mkeiyd, newfarer is right and you are wrong, as no value was created, no one really earned anything. And assuming the chain of debtors and creditors represent the whole economy, then no one is better off as their situation has not changed. But it does feel good to starve debt free So how is value created.Are you talking of absolute or relative values? Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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PeterReborn wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:mkeiy wrote:newfarer wrote:Mike Ock wrote:streetwise wrote:Ati how much money the guy has.
Ask farmers in Mumias that question.
Let me set it a bit clear , money is not created , meaning for you to get rich the other guy must let go and become poorer.
So if you can tell how much the farmers around Mumias lost then you know how much the guy has
What a shamefully wrong statement from a whole wazua veteran. Masterpiece on economics. One day a tourist comes to the only hotel in a debt ridden town in Kenya. He lays a 100 dollar note on the table & goes to inspect the rooms. Hotel owner takes the note & rushes to pay his debt to the butcher. Butcher runs to pay the pig farmer. Pig farmer runs to pay the feed supplier. Supplier runs to pay the prostitute, who in these hard times gave her services on credit. Prostitute then runs to pay off her debt to the hotel owner for the rooms she rented for her clients. Hotel owner then lays the 100 dollar note back on the counter. The tourist comes down, takes his money & leaves as he did not like the rooms. No one earned anything. But that group of people is now without debt & looks to the future with a lot of optimism. @newfarer. Ulienda shule gani? They are now debt-free. That's their earning. Kwani hizo deni zingejilipa? If you value them now, each is 100$ better off! @Mkeiyd, newfarer is right and you are wrong, as no value was created, no one really earned anything. And assuming the chain of debtors and creditors represent the whole economy, then no one is better off as their situation has not changed. But it does feel good to starve debt free So how is value created.Are you talking of absolute or relative values? @PeterReborn, value is created when goods and services are exchanged not when they are paid for. Payment is just for facilitation. In this scenario, value will most likely be created if everyone is now happy with the credit rating of their customers and offer further goods on credit. Which doesn't make sense because they could have gone on giving credit anyway. By the way this simple transaction is what sets the american commercial system ahead of the rest in the world, bad debt is normally written-off very fast to allow for more trading. This is done through filing chapter 11, writing down inventory and quick disposal through sales etc. They borrow from the rest of the world, trade and return the money with 1% interest through more borrowing. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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