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50% of eurobond money traced to a US bank
limanika
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:07:33 PM
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So where did CBK get the money in first place. If from reserves deposited by local banks, shouldn't the eurobond money have been shipped in by now to replenish the reserves. Someone pliz explain like a 2 year old
Taurrus
#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:25:10 PM
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limanika wrote:
So where did CBK get the money in first place. If from reserves deposited by local banks, shouldn't the eurobond money have been shipped in by now to replenish the reserves. Someone pliz explain like a 2 year old

Bonds smile
Taurrus
#13 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:27:31 PM
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BTW do the CBK declare profit/loss like othe banks? asking for a friend

Rahatupu
#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:28:49 PM
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muganda wrote:
CBK Governor, Patrick Njoroge, Thu 21 Jan:

Claims that $999 million (Sh100 billion) is missing from the CBK accounts are far from the truth. There was a balance $999 million in JP Morgan sovereign bond account and the National Treasury instructed the CBK to transfer the balance from the sovereign bond account at CBK and close the JP Morgan account.

So the CBK acquired the $999 million and credited the National Treasury account with Sh88 billion. That is the simple transaction and this we do all the time.

The account that was credited with the US dollars is a CBK account in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. We at CBK have accounts with so many other central banks in the world because we are regularly working with them in our normal course of business.

There was another transaction on December 17. The amount in US dollars was $815 million and it was converted to Kenya shillings at the then prevailing rate such that the Treasury account was credited with Sh73.8 billion.

Wait till it becomes a "these people" issue.
stock.enigma
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:37:21 PM
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Read four smokin guns, Saturday Standard 23rd Jan
gmg
#16 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:46:43 PM
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N that is why CBK has dollar reserves at all time high of USD 7billion. http://www.businessdaily...36/-/yb3vfj/-/index.html
limanika
#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:26:13 PM
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Taurrus wrote:
limanika wrote:
So where did CBK get the money in first place. If from reserves deposited by local banks, shouldn't the eurobond money have been shipped in by now to replenish the reserves. Someone pliz explain like a 2 year old

Bonds smile

What/whose bond??
murchr
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:50:56 PM
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limanika wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
limanika wrote:
So where did CBK get the money in first place. If from reserves deposited by local banks, shouldn't the eurobond money have been shipped in by now to replenish the reserves. Someone pliz explain like a 2 year old

Bonds smile

What/whose bond??


Have you been following this saga really ama you have been yapping tu

Press Here For treasury's response on babus allegations dated January 14 2016.

Because I know you wont bother

Statement wrote:
For purposes of the general public information, we shall again clarify some of the key issues raised in his statement

as follows:
1. The allegation that US$ US$ 999 million (Kshs. 88.5 billion) is missing

Response:

The standard procedure for this transaction is for the Government to sell the dollars received to CBK which it retains as its own international reserves and simultaneously credits the Government Account at the CBK with the equivalent in Kenya Shillings.
In this particular case the Kenya Shillings Equivalent of Kshs. 88.46 billion (US$ 999 Million) was credited in the CBK Sovereign Bond Account No.1000212764 at the Central Bank of Kenya on the 8th September, 2014.

At the same time, the CBK’s international reserves were increased by the equivalent in dollars of US$ 999
million at the CBK Account held with the Federal Reserve Bank in New York.


This clearly demonstrates that there were no funds lost because the CBK forex reserves increased and the Government received its money.

The SWIFT transfer documents and the bank statements from the JP Morgan Chase bank and Citibank relating to these transactions were shared with Parliament, Auditor General, investigators and the media as well as posted in the National Treasury website and no information was redacted. As indicated earlier it is
evident to well-meaning Kenyans that the money was received at the CBK.


Press Here for the copy of swift transfer
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limanika
#19 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:28:33 AM
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Seen the explanation @ muchr. My quiz is where did CBK get the 88b ksh denominations in first place. Did they print it, or was it the normal reserve held for other banks
murchr
#20 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:44:36 AM
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limanika wrote:
Seen the explanation @ muchr. My quiz is where did CBK get the 88b ksh denominations in first place. Did they print it, or was it the normal reserve held for other banks


Normally, Kenyan banks & foreign bureaus buy the $$ from central bank and sell it to Kenyans needing it ama where's the mystery?

2. CBK is the banker for all banks in KE and am assuming they operate in KES ama?
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