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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
hisah
#1451 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 11:01:57 AM
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Yet market operators are busy preaching buy stocks now they're cheap. Bla bla bla.



Until this saga comes to an end taking down all the dirt out of the system, the market can't take off and the signals in the bond market undersubscriptions says we're yet to see the bottom fall out!

I continue to warn those holding bank stocks sit tight Pray
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Spikes
#1452 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 11:11:00 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
hisah wrote:
HFCK breaking below 20 handle Pray

All time high volume churned in mid Dec last year at 21 - 22 range. Are we going to see 10 handle tested???


If HFCK tests 10 handle it will be a total disaster in our economy because this bank has strong fundamentals. I urge NSE shutdown if we hit such indecent levels.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Aguytrying
#1453 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 11:39:29 AM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
hisah wrote:
HFCK breaking below 20 handle Pray

All time high volume churned in mid Dec last year at 21 - 22 range. Are we going to see 10 handle tested???


A former darling of mine until i missed out on the rights, which later turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I said severally that those rights were over valued, I was a lone voice in this. Looking back. This was just the classic "new listings" during a bear run, just that it was a rights. I like the company, but I do not trust Britam, who now own 46%. At 10.00-13.00 it will be equivalent to 15.00- 19.50 before the rights, which sounds about right to me. Especially any figure approaching 13.00.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#1454 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 12:32:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
muandiwambeu
#1455 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 6:02:01 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
HFCK breaking below 20 handle Pray

All time high volume churned in mid Dec last year at 21 - 22 range. Are we going to see 10 handle tested???


If HFCK tests 10 handle it will be a total disaster in our economy because this bank has strong fundamentals. I urge NSE shutdown if we hit such indecent levels.

In 2011_2013 the market took hfck there just after the successful rights at twentish and the market surely did not close. Why think it's will close this time round. Buckle up, we are experiencing turbulence @spikes or take a parachute. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly, I weathered the ride then stuck up at dsl like a real Moran. Now weigh you options cause all indicators say after that dilution the pay check home won't be so nice to talk about. We must respect Mr markets difficult times and mourn with it. smile
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
muandiwambeu
#1456 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 6:06:58 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed

Construction boom has leveled up in Kenya. There is cut throat competition in built environment and thinking that Bamburi is Mr king is not here or there. For a whole year in construction have used every brand from Savanah to bamburi with equal access. Unlike before. d'oh!
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
moneydust
#1457 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2016 7:26:55 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/31/2007
Posts: 304
muandiwambeu wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed

Construction boom has leveled up in Kenya. There is cut throat competition in built environment and thinking that Bamburi is Mr king is not here or there. For a whole year in construction have used every brand from Savanah to bamburi with equal access. Unlike before. d'oh!


My sentiments exactly.I wouldnt buy into a cement company right now,there is too much dust in the air.Only the most efficient and strategic cement company will survive the bruising fight ahead.
Spikes
#1458 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 9:59:16 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
moneydust wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed

Construction boom has leveled up in Kenya. There is cut throat competition in built environment and thinking that Bamburi is Mr king is not here or there. For a whole year in construction have used every brand from Savanah to bamburi with equal access. Unlike before. d'oh!


My sentiments exactly.I wouldnt buy into a cement company right now,there is too much dust in the air.Only the most efficient and strategic cement company will survive the bruising fight ahead.


One thing I know and I would wish shared with Wazuans is that some stocks will remain resilient throughout the bear market. Especially the stocks that are expecting good news after being in the dark for more than three years. Archive/bookmark this thread you will come remembering me!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
muandiwambeu
#1459 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:01:18 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Spikes wrote:
moneydust wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed

Construction boom has leveled up in Kenya. There is cut throat competition in built environment and thinking that Bamburi is Mr king is not here or there. For a whole year in construction have used every brand from Savanah to bamburi with equal access. Unlike before. d'oh!


My sentiments exactly.I wouldnt buy into a cement company right now,there is too much dust in the air.Only the most efficient and strategic cement company will survive the bruising fight ahead.


One thing I know and I would wish shared with Wazuans is that some stocks will remain resilient throughout the bear market. Especially the stocks that are expecting good news after being in the dark for more than three years. Archive/bookmark this thread you will come remembering me!

If you know why arm or eapc are where they are, know they grazing field is overpopulated. You might be lucky to have a hump to survive, but you will have a tale to tell how your hump used to be big. After every construction boom cement firms feel the heat since time to change systems are long being highly specialised. Some go into disuse or regionalisation of markets into segments/ turf protection. Eapc and bamburi enjoyed close to monopoly but now it's all a bear knuckles fight for market. Prices of cement are suppressed across the country unlike other years.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
murchr
#1460 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2016 5:57:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
muandiwambeu wrote:
Spikes wrote:
moneydust wrote:
muandiwambeu wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Watch out for mpesa bank... The swift drops are coming!


@hisah are you holding anything or as for you now cash is king?

Still in cash. I wanted to board bamburi but decided not to as the market was hinting to give fatter discounts this year. NIC is also on my strike list.


I was thinking about Bamburi too because of SGR but the trailing PE 17.6 is not pleasing at all, are you able to gauge what the forward PE would be?

My forecast for BAMB is
Turnover 40B vs 36B
EPS - 13 vs 9.80 boosted by forex gains on USD cash holdings thus forward PER = 13.3
Total DPS - 12 (6+6) - Dividend yield at current stock price (173) is 6.9%

I expect this stock stay afloat in the current bearish storm.


That's encouraging coming from you. But we have to agree if the market gets to 3000 points, bamburi will have to shed some weight though not 50% like some have shed

Construction boom has leveled up in Kenya. There is cut throat competition in built environment and thinking that Bamburi is Mr king is not here or there. For a whole year in construction have used every brand from Savanah to bamburi with equal access. Unlike before. d'oh!


My sentiments exactly.I wouldnt buy into a cement company right now,there is too much dust in the air.Only the most efficient and strategic cement company will survive the bruising fight ahead.


One thing I know and I would wish shared with Wazuans is that some stocks will remain resilient throughout the bear market. Especially the stocks that are expecting good news after being in the dark for more than three years. Archive/bookmark this thread you will come remembering me!

If you know why arm or eapc are where they are, know they grazing field is overpopulated. You might be lucky to have a hump to survive, but you will have a tale to tell how your hump used to be big. After every construction boom cement firms feel the heat since time to change systems are long being highly specialised. Some go into disuse or regionalisation of markets into segments/ turf protection. Eapc and bamburi enjoyed close to monopoly but now it's all a bear knuckles fight for market. Prices of cement are suppressed across the country unlike other years.



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