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kaka2za
#21 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 5:46:15 PM
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May be we should send our security guys to Indonesia. They liquidated 5 attackers and lost only 2 civilians.
They have identified all the assailants and coordinator within 24hrs!
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murchr
#22 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 7:32:27 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
May be we should send our security guys to Indonesia. They liquidated 5 attackers and lost only 2 civilians.
They have identified all the assailants and coordinator within 24hrs!


The difference here is that this is a "bush ambush" and the attackers are known alshabab
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kaka2za
#23 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 7:39:57 PM
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murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
May be we should send our security guys to Indonesia. They liquidated 5 attackers and lost only 2 civilians.
They have identified all the assailants and coordinator within 24hrs!


The difference here is that this is a "bush ambush" and the attackers are known alshabab


Were the Garissa campus attackers other than the UoN graduate ever identified?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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murchr
#24 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 7:56:59 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
murchr wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
May be we should send our security guys to Indonesia. They liquidated 5 attackers and lost only 2 civilians.
They have identified all the assailants and coordinator within 24hrs!


The difference here is that this is a "bush ambush" and the attackers are known alshabab


Were the Garissa campus attackers other than the UoN graduate ever identified?


There are those in court. One died - the lawyer son of a chief, some of them could be involved in this ambush the cops that pictures of perpetrators. In short, avoid the copy and paste thinking, scenarios are not the same.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#25 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 8:42:15 PM
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If it is true that they have overun the camp and town, then they should be carpet bombed and town wiped off the map. Ili iwe funzo. #ScorchedEarthStrategy
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#26 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 9:32:30 PM
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We lost soldiers in Somalia attack, but it won’t be in vain – Uhuru

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There were varied figures floated by the AMISOM and Al Shabaab Spokesman Abdiaziz Abu Musab who is known to exaggerate the number of troops killed, while AMISOM rarely gives exact figures.

Kenya’s Military Spokesman Col David Obonyo had earlier issued a brief statement on the attack but steered clear of the casualty figures, saying it was yet to be confirmed.

While Obonyo said the attack occurred at a Somalia National Army base, the statement from State House was categorical that it occurred at the AMISOM base at El Adde.

El Adde is occupied by Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) serving under AMISOM.
tycho
#27 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 9:32:47 PM
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hardwood wrote:
If it is true that they have overun the camp and town, then they should be carpet bombed and town wiped off the map. Ili iwe funzo. #ScorchedEarthStrategy


Reminds me of ancient Greece where it's said that free citizens would all participate in forging military strategy. It must have been tough!
The Clown
#28 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 11:48:14 PM
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I saw this prophecy last year, and it seems the events of today at Elade have fulfilled the words that were spoken.

Visions of Al-Shabaab Killing KDF as Al-Shabaab take Grounds


oltome
#29 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:22:16 AM
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I have seen a video they made on their attack on the Ugandan camp last year...i shudder to think that they will make one on the kenyan attack
mali ya nguvu
#30 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:32:12 PM
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Heartfelt condolences and may their souls rest in peace. They died in the line of defending our comforts and may their spirits live among the nation!
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#31 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:34:55 PM
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tycho
#32 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:57:11 PM
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I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.
¿
#33 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:08:04 PM
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tycho wrote:


I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.


Why?
tycho
#34 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:40:00 PM
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¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:


I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.


Why?


Because the strategy used by the Al Shabaab will be optimal at around that time, and the Kenyan strategy will be losing, or will have lost strength.

The AS are basically using subversion and exhaustion as their strategies, while Kenya seems to be relying on annihilation. Energy and focus are used very differently in these different and opposing strategies. They're not well matched especially if one considers that annihilation of AS seems to be very difficult if not impossible.
guru267
#35 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 5:56:13 PM
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tycho wrote:
¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:


I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.


Why?


Because the strategy used by the Al Shabaab will be optimal at around that time, and the Kenyan strategy will be losing, or will have lost strength.

The AS are basically using subversion and exhaustion as their strategies, while Kenya seems to be relying on annihilation. Energy and focus are used very differently in these different and opposing strategies. They're not well matched especially if one considers that annihilation of AS seems to be very difficult if not impossible.


5 years in Somalia and counting for KDF. What is the end game here?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Njung'e
#36 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:41:40 PM
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guru267 wrote:
[quote=tycho][quote=¿][quote=tycho][quote=¿]

5 years in Somalia and counting for KDF. What is the end game here?


You are a known shabaab sympathizer.Go back to your hole.NKT!Sad
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tycho
#37 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:41:38 PM
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guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:


I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.


Why?


Because the strategy used by the Al Shabaab will be optimal at around that time, and the Kenyan strategy will be losing, or will have lost strength.

The AS are basically using subversion and exhaustion as their strategies, while Kenya seems to be relying on annihilation. Energy and focus are used very differently in these different and opposing strategies. They're not well matched especially if one considers that annihilation of AS seems to be very difficult if not impossible.


5 years in Somalia and counting for KDF. What is the end game here?


The military follows what's laid by the political leadership and it's the latter who will determine the end game.
¿
#38 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:27:12 PM
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tycho wrote:
guru267 wrote:
tycho wrote:
¿ wrote:
tycho wrote:


I'd expect the attack within 2 to 3 months.


Why?


Because the strategy used by the Al Shabaab will be optimal at around that time, and the Kenyan strategy will be losing, or will have lost strength.

The AS are basically using subversion and exhaustion as their strategies, while Kenya seems to be relying on annihilation. Energy and focus are used very differently in these different and opposing strategies. They're not well matched especially if one considers that annihilation of AS seems to be very difficult if not impossible.


5 years in Somalia and counting for KDF. What is the end game here?


The military follows what's laid by the political leadership and it's the latter who will determine the end game.


Oh. I thought you would say Islamic terrorists hate Easter.
¿
#39 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:48:13 PM
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guru267
#40 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:04:39 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
guru267 wrote:
[quote=tycho][quote=¿][quote=tycho][quote=¿]

5 years in Somalia and counting for KDF. What is the end game here?


You are a known shabaab sympathizer.Go back to your hole.NKT!Sad


Old man... Stop crying and answer the question??
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