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Yaani Eurobond billions are finished?
kaka2za
#381 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 3:46:54 PM
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madollar wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
The way things are going, I foresee a high profile assassination soon, and Kenya's first civil war.

Ngumu it would have happened a long time ago the know how to handle him every election cycle.


Assassinations create heroes out of otherwise ordinary people.
Robert Ouko would most probably have faded into obscurity in 1992 if he had lived. JM Kariuki would have become another Shikuku. Tom Mboya would have been neutered by Jaramogi. Assassination made them legends.
Why kill when you can frustrate them in life? Can assure you that ''insiders' will NEVER let the guy win.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Njung'e
#382 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 5:52:25 PM
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Hats off Rotich for not threatening to sue. It's what good ol' Njonjo calls throwing good money after bad. Let's wait for the next chorus.

http://www.the-star.co.k...nd-theft-claims_c1276951
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murchr
#383 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2016 7:19:31 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Hats off Rotich for not threatening to sue. It's what good ol' Njonjo calls throwing good money after bad. Let's wait for the next chorus.

http://www.the-star.co.k...d-theft-claims_c1276951




Am waiting to see the credentials of this expert. Could be like the other "IT expert" who showed kina alma how the elections were rigged even tho voting was manual.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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KulaRaha
#384 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:01:50 PM
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Njung'e
#385 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:24:13 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:



Pertinent questions there and he has done well enough to point in a two way direction where he thinks the money is. He is not like that politician who is talking from the mouth of a clueless "Eurobond" trail hunter who doesn't even know where he is on the trail. Well, for opening up his mouth without facts, there will be political ramifications. The ol' man of Sacho used to say, "Siasa mbaya maisha mbaya" . Here goes a bunch of Babu's precious doves.


Earlier yesterday, MPs Jimmy Angwenyi (Kitutu Chache North), Zebedeo Opore (Bonchari), Ben Momanyi (Borabu) and Nyamira Senator Kennedy Mong'are told Raila to apologise for linking CBK Chairman Mohamed Nyaoga to the Eurobond drama.

"Raila has become a reckless propagandist on an unknown mission. We are in Cord but we are considering our position and time will tell,"


http://www.the-star.co.k...ist-on-eurobond_c1277064
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tycho
#386 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:10:25 PM
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...From a book I'm currently reading...

Quote:
A leader should borrow as much as the coalition will endorse and markets will provide. There is
surely a challenger out there who will borrow this much and, in doing so, use the money to grab
power away from the incumbent. So not borrowing jeopardizes a leader’s hold on power. Heavy
borrowing is a feature of small coalition settings. It is not the result, as some economists argue, of
ignorance of basic economics by third-world leaders.


Makes me wonder, should Wanjiku bother about Euro-bond at all? Can she ever get to know the truth or is she merely a propaganda tool of either side of the political divide?
murchr
#387 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 5:09:07 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:


Now Ndii acknowledges that the money was used in govt but brings in politricks as usual, URM 68B TNA 70b

Politics wrote:
Five weeks later, in an interview with the Business Daily, the CS threw in the towel, stating that “The ministries cannot differentiate whether the money they have received from the Exchequer came from VAT, income taxes, Customs duties, excise taxes, domestic borrowing or the Eurobond.” This is a true irrelevant lie.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is true that the Judiciary will not know how the Sh3 million disbursed by the Treasury was raised, but this is not the issue.



Falling over his own words. The people with the Eurobond answers are the COB and AG. The COB oversees the implementation of budgets per the constitution. Not the CS
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Cornelius Vanderbilt
#388 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2016 1:26:54 PM
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Alba
#389 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:22:35 PM
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kaka2za wrote:


Assassinations create heroes out of otherwise ordinary people.
Robert Ouko would most probably have faded into obscurity in 1992 if he had lived. JM Kariuki would have become another Shikuku. Tom Mboya would have been neutered by Jaramogi. Assassination made them legends.
Why kill when you can frustrate them in life? Can assure you that ''insiders' will NEVER let the guy win.


I disagree. Firstly none of those people you mentioned were ordinary. Assasinations are targeted towards neutralizing people who are becoming real threats to the existing hegemony.

In 1990 Ouko's star was rising very fast. On a visit to the USA he shone very brilliantly, answering questions from the US media , from congress and so forth. He represented Kenya so well. He was brilliant articulate, eloquent intelligent as opposed to Moi who appeared like a bumbling buffoon to the Americans. So much so that American politicians openly said Ouko should be prezzi not Moi. His speeches in America were replayed over and over on KBC whoch was the only TV station most Kenyans had at the time. (Few people had KTN)Ouko suddenly became very popular all over Kenya. Thats why Moi and Biwott felt he had to be neutralized.

My take is that in 1992, Ouko would not have faded into obscurity. He likely would have joined the opposition as did many KANU stalwarts. And since he had support all over the country, he would have been a much stronger contender than Oginga Odinga. For much of the 1980s, Oginga was not a factor in Kenyan politics. He only started to rise again during the clamour for pluralism around 1990.


Comparing Shikuku to JM Kariuki is an insult to a great man who rose above tribal sycophancy, something that many Kenyans can't do even 50 years later.

JM and Mboya were highly respected outside of their respective regions. There is a good chance that one of them would have become president at some point. The curse of Kenya is that all the leaders who would have made excellent presidents and united a tribally fissured country were all assassinated. We are now stuck with leaders who prosper by dividing Kenyans along tribal lines.
kawambui
#390 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:51:55 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
maka wrote:
[quote=washiku]

@ Washiku its very simple let them go to court and proper documentation be availed lets see if Baba will be left with egg on his face...and apologize.


Now we have a CORD expert in tracing EurobondLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly .....Eish. I need to see his credentials especially after admitting that he is somewhere along the trail. No wonder Larry has called it right. Just fart.Poor man.



“No outright assertion that X,Y,Z is a beneficiary. We are saying this is where the trail stops and further investigations need to be conducted,” said Alex Owino, Cord’s lead financial consultant and expert in tracing the Eurobond proceeds.


http://www.africagrowth.com/CV/AlexProf.pdf
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