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SHIITE vs SUNNI
hardwood
#41 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 10:21:03 AM
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Impunity wrote:
sparkly wrote:
¿ wrote:
Arab foreign ministers accuse Iran of undermining regional security

Quote:
"Iran has to decide what kind of neighbor it wants to be: a good neighbor or a chaotic neighbor and so far it behaves like the latter," UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan said following an emergency Arab League meeting in Cairo.
Quote:
If Iran continues to support "terrorism, sectarianism and violence", it would face opposition from all Arab countries, Jubeir told a news conference following the meeting.


Ethnic differences. Arabs and Iranians are Muslim but Iranians are not Arabs.

Arabs are Semites like the Hebrews but Iranians are Aryan/ Caucasian.


I think Iranians are Persians, very different ethnicity, just like the Kurds and Pershmagas and Yazhidis.


And 50% of the lebanese are christians.
http://www.dw.com/en/leb...itical-crisis/a-18593947
¿
#42 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:54:08 AM
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Iran foreign minister accuses Saudi Arabia of 'hatred and sectarianism'

Mohammad Javad Zarif: Saudi Arabia’s Reckless Extremism

Quote:
The Saudi leadership must now make a choice: They can continue supporting extremists and promoting sectarian hatred; or they can opt to play a constructive role in promoting regional stability. We hope that reason will prevail.


Wainadi
#43 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:17:18 AM
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¿ wrote:
Iran foreign minister accuses Saudi Arabia of 'hatred and sectarianism'

Mohammad Javad Zarif: Saudi Arabia’s Reckless Extremism

Quote:
The Saudi leadership must now make a choice: They can continue supporting extremists and promoting sectarian hatred; or they can opt to play a constructive role in promoting regional stability. We hope that reason will prevail.



Accusations and counter-accusations galore.
Its all good.
Othelo
#44 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:26:59 AM
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Wainadi wrote:
¿ wrote:
Iran foreign minister accuses Saudi Arabia of 'hatred and sectarianism'

Mohammad Javad Zarif: Saudi Arabia’s Reckless Extremism

Quote:
The Saudi leadership must now make a choice: They can continue supporting extremists and promoting sectarian hatred; or they can opt to play a constructive role in promoting regional stability. We hope that reason will prevail.



Accusations and counter-accusations galore.

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AlphDoti
#45 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:36:21 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad
Nandwa
#46 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:10:31 AM
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The main guys - the protagonists, the owners of the faith and its shades/sects appreciate that the differences are real.
There is a reason why the area is viewed as a tinderbox of sorts.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#47 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 12:39:59 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
The main guys - the protagonists, the owners of the faith and its shades/sects appreciate that the differences are real.
There is a reason why the area is viewed as a tinderbox of sorts.

@nandwa, if anyone told you they own "a faith", then you were fooled. If you can find any difference in the Quran or in the Hadiths of the prophet, then come back and let us know. Otherwise, just know this is all about POWER and POLITICS.

Somebody said once, "all this sunni vs shia narratives is a product of LAZY, SIMPLISTIC, CLICHED journalism meant to allow Western instigators to avoid RESPONSIBILITY from the mess in the Middle East which they helped create"
Impunity
#48 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:31:13 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad


@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.

Sad
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AlphDoti
#49 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:11:24 PM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.
masukuma
#50 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:28:36 PM
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or as the same guys who say "I - rak", he was an "A - rab"
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sitaki.kujulikana
#51 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:54:33 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet
Nandwa
#52 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:54:47 PM
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Shia, Sunni divide is a reality. It doesnt matter how much in denial one may want to be. Oh and it is fashionable to blame it on the West... and did I hear lazy journalist!!
As some peripheral latter day convert shouts self hoarse in denial, the main players acknowledge the reality

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#53 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 5:53:32 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet

Not that I'm aware of.
Impunity
#54 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:39:49 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet

Not that I'm aware of.


In which Geographical location/country was Mohammed (pbuh) born?

Was it in present day Iraq, Jeddah of Ethiopia?
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AlphDoti
#55 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:05:21 AM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet

Not that I'm aware of.

In which Geographical location/country was Mohammed (pbuh) born?

Was it in present day Iraq, Jeddah of Ethiopia?

@impunity, none of the above. He was born in Makkah, in the present day Saudi Arabia. He lived in Makkah then moved to Madina at the age of 53. His father's name was Abdullah, his mother Aminah. His profession was business man, then a Prophet.
sitaki.kujulikana
#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:50:12 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
[quote=sparkly]Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet

Not that I'm aware of.

In which Geographical location/country was Mohammed (pbuh) born?

Was it in present day Iraq, Jeddah of Ethiopia?

@impunity, none of the above. He was born in Makkah, in the present day Saudi Arabia. He lived in Makkah then moved to Madina at the age of 53. His father's name was Abdullah, his mother Aminah. His profession was business man, then a Prophet.[/quote]
what business was he involved in, before the lord Jesus called him to be a prophet.
Impunity
#57 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:01:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments.

@sparky, what is driving this Middle East conflict right now is an issue, which is 40 years old i.e. since around 1979.

The Sunnis and Shias is a MYTH.
The Truth is about POWER.

So it is POLITICS! POLITICS! POLITICS!

The unfortunate thing is, people who are supposed to be learned and enlightened always fall for these FALSE FLAGS.

Just like how tribal violence are done here locally Sad Sad

@AlpgDoti, what tribe was @Mohammed(pbuh)?

Was he a Persian, Yazidi,Arab,Kurd,Jew,Aryan,Turk,Armen or Samaria?

Please answer.
Sad

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was an Arab.

Ask me anything bro.

was there a Persian prophet

Not that I'm aware of.

In which Geographical location/country was Mohammed (pbuh) born?

Was it in present day Iraq, Jeddah of Ethiopia?

@impunity, none of the above. He was born in Makkah, in the present day Saudi Arabia. He lived in Makkah then moved to Madina at the age of 53. His father's name was Abdullah, his mother Aminah. His profession was business man, then a Prophet.



Okay.

Unlike @Jesus (Christ), @Mohammed (pbup) was married, and NOT one to wife,two or even 4...but married to several wives,more than FOUR.

So why did he strict his followers to only marry max. 4 wives? what did he discovered wrong with multi-marrying?

Did @Mohammed(peace) have any bros and sisters?

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masukuma
#58 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:08:08 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:

@impunity, none of the above. He was born in Makkah, in the present day Saudi Arabia. He lived in Makkah then moved to Madina at the age of 53. His father's name was Abdullah, his mother Aminah. His profession was business man, then a Prophet.

So kama kungekuwa na forms za immigration kujaza angejaza "Prophet" kwa hiyo entry form?
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Nandwa
#59 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:08:32 AM
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Comoros jumps into the fray

Quote:
Moroni (Comoros) (AFP) - Indian Ocean archipelago and Saudi Arabia ally the Comoros said it had cut diplomatic relations with Iran over what it termed Tehran's "aggression" towards Riyadh.

A foreign ministry statement said the Comoros viewed Tehran as "interfering" in "the internal affairs of certain countries" and "not respecting diplomatic conventions".
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
masukuma
#60 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:57:54 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

Comoros jumps into the fray

Quote:
Moroni (Comoros) (AFP) - Indian Ocean archipelago and Saudi Arabia ally the Comoros said it had cut diplomatic relations with Iran over what it termed Tehran's "aggression" towards Riyadh.

A foreign ministry statement said the Comoros viewed Tehran as "interfering" in "the internal affairs of certain countries" and "not respecting diplomatic conventions".

Comoros is in the league of Arab states.. the most southern country in the league.
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