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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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quicksand wrote:Once the oil dries up....then the Middle East will find out the true meaning of being irrelevant.
The Middle East will have nothing to bring to the table. No oil, no industry, no agriculture, no human resource expertise. And then US, and with it Europe, will summarily stop giving a shit.
The UAE foresaw this long ago..right now their economy depends on tourism and trade as they wean off oil I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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digitek1 wrote:quicksand wrote:Once the oil dries up....then the Middle East will find out the true meaning of being irrelevant.
The Middle East will have nothing to bring to the table. No oil, no industry, no agriculture, no human resource expertise. And then US, and with it Europe, will summarily stop giving a shit.
The UAE foresaw this long ago..right now their economy depends on tourism and trade as they wean off oil Slightly inaccurate. They have done better than the rest of UAE by diversifying. By Wikipedia, 85% of UAE exports is oil. Remember the vast infrastructure and housing projects? Many have collapsed, the rest have slowed ..and you cannot discount how much of that was financed by oil Quote:
Although UAE has the most diversified economy in the GCC, the UAE's economy remains extremely reliant on oil. With the exception of Dubai, most of the UAE is dependent on oil revenues. Petroleum and natural gas continue to play a central role in the economy, especially in Abu Dhabi. More than 85% of the UAE's economy was based on the oil exports in 2009.
https://en.wikipedia.org...ki/United_Arab_Emirates
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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hardwood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/world/middleeast/q-and-a-how-do-sunni-and-shia-islam-differ.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0  So where are the purist who pontificate here all the time about how theirs is an incontrovertible dini! Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Nandwa wrote:hardwood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/world/middleeast/q-and-a-how-do-sunni-and-shia-islam-differ.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0 So where are the purist who pontificate here all the time about how theirs is an incontrovertible dini! Because despite the fact that those people seek intercession from Imams, mutilate their bodies etc they did not change a single word in the Qur'an... All differences in Islam are external to the contents of the Qur'an.. Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Still waiting for @alphdoti to give his considered comments. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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So hii mambo ya slaying by the sword started on day right in the doorstep of prophet Muhammad(pbuh)? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:So hii mambo ya slaying by the sword started on day right in the doorstep of prophet Muhammad(pbuh)? It actually started when the Almighty gave Abraham (pbuh) authority to invade Canaan! That particular slaughter was real... Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Impunity wrote:So hii mambo ya slaying by the sword started on day right in the doorstep of prophet Muhammad(pbuh)? It actually started when the Almighty gave Abraham (pbuh) authority to invade Canaan! That particular slaughter was real... actually I think if God wants people killed... HE KILLS THEM HIMSELF! hizi story za niliambiwa by God (Who will not answer your confirmation queries because He is invisible and Silent... except to the guy who received the command) to kill you and your people is just a way to have round up people around one cause and that cause is to kill other people!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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guru267 wrote:Nandwa wrote:hardwood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/world/middleeast/q-and-a-how-do-sunni-and-shia-islam-differ.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0 So where are the purist who pontificate here all the time about how theirs is an incontrovertible dini! Because despite the fact that those people seek intercession from Imams, mutilate their bodies etc they did not change a single word in the Qur'an... All differences in Islam are external to the contents of the Qur'an.. But differences anyway! Questions of interpretation/understanding. It matters pretty little where the differences are hinged. They are the root of multiple mutants of Mohamedans. Emotions of disenchantment from one sect to another tell a story of themselves too. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Nandwa wrote:hardwood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/world/middleeast/q-and-a-how-do-sunni-and-shia-islam-differ.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0 So where are the purist who pontificate here all the time about how theirs is an incontrovertible dini! Because despite the fact that those people seek intercession from Imams, mutilate their bodies etc they did not change a single word in the Qur'an... All differences in Islam are external to the contents of the Qur'an.. Why does humanity have many different languages? I bet that same reason behind different religions and sects and philosophies. And when I ask myself 'Is that a good thing?' I realize that's perfection. So why have I been thinking of having a 'Christian universe', or a uniform immutable universe? I think the above paragraph describes what I now understand as 'the God delusion'. The story of the tower of Babel appears to be a linguistic peculiarity of some people; not all people. My other question now is whether language develops at all and how it develops. Or is it that language evolves? Something is telling me that 'development' is a delusion too! I seem to be in @masukuma's 'talk shop'.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Religion is creation of men. work to prosper
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:Religion is creation of men. Is there something that's not a creation of Man? What's the significance of your assertion; given that the assertion is your creation? You too professed atheist are God deluded, and you don't seem to know it!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:Nandwa wrote:hardwood wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/world/middleeast/q-and-a-how-do-sunni-and-shia-islam-differ.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0 So where are the purist who pontificate here all the time about how theirs is an incontrovertible dini! Because despite the fact that those people seek intercession from Imams, mutilate their bodies etc they did not change a single word in the Qur'an... All differences in Islam are external to the contents of the Qur'an.. Why does humanity have many different languages? I bet that same reason behind different religions and sects and philosophies. And when I ask myself 'Is that a good thing?' I realize that's perfection. So why have I been thinking of having a 'Christian universe', or a uniform immutable universe? I think the above paragraph describes what I now understand as 'the God delusion'. The story of the tower of Babel appears to be a linguistic peculiarity of some people; not all people. My other question now is whether language develops at all and how it develops. Or is it that language evolves? Something is telling me that 'development' is a delusion too! I seem to be in @masukuma's 'talk shop'.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Arab foreign ministers accuse Iran of undermining regional securityQuote:"Iran has to decide what kind of neighbor it wants to be: a good neighbor or a chaotic neighbor and so far it behaves like the latter," UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan said following an emergency Arab League meeting in Cairo. Quote:If Iran continues to support "terrorism, sectarianism and violence", it would face opposition from all Arab countries, Jubeir told a news conference following the meeting.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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¿ wrote:Arab foreign ministers accuse Iran of undermining regional securityQuote:"Iran has to decide what kind of neighbor it wants to be: a good neighbor or a chaotic neighbor and so far it behaves like the latter," UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan said following an emergency Arab League meeting in Cairo. Quote:If Iran continues to support "terrorism, sectarianism and violence", it would face opposition from all Arab countries, Jubeir told a news conference following the meeting. Ethnic differences. Arabs and Iranians are Muslim but Iranians are not Arabs. Arabs are Semites like the Hebrews but Iranians are Aryan/ Caucasian. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:¿ wrote:Arab foreign ministers accuse Iran of undermining regional securityQuote:"Iran has to decide what kind of neighbor it wants to be: a good neighbor or a chaotic neighbor and so far it behaves like the latter," UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan said following an emergency Arab League meeting in Cairo. Quote:If Iran continues to support "terrorism, sectarianism and violence", it would face opposition from all Arab countries, Jubeir told a news conference following the meeting. Ethnic differences. Arabs and Iranians are Muslim but Iranians are not Arabs. Arabs are Semites like the Hebrews but Iranians are Aryan/ Caucasian. Persian is the term. Their language is also quite different from Arabic but it does use Arabic script. They are a distinct group of people. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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The Iranians are besieged, all their neighbours have issues with them. The Supreme leader doesnt help matters by appearing to send a cue to the populace by way of "dog whistle"Quote:First, it was the Egyptian embassy, second the American embassy, later Denmark, then the British embassy was ransacked by mostly Basijis, and now, it is the turn of Saudi Arabia's embassy to be attacked by crowds of Iranians. What kind of diplomacy is Rowhani's government referring to?
These kinds of assaults on foreign embassies and diplomats have several dimensions; they appear to be a systematic reaction as they follow strong remarks from Iran's Supreme Leader. Iranian media outlets normally refer to these attackers as passionate young people or "followers of the Imam's route," rather than aggressors.
In addition, it is intriguing that Iranian forces which are very quick at identifying demonstrations, are always late to act when it comes to these types of pre-organized and sophisticated attacks on embassies. Moreover, the perpetrators of these attacks generally attempt to show their loyalty to the ideals of the Supreme Leader and the Islamic Republic's revolutionary principles. As a member of Iran's semi-militia group, the Basiji, pointed out: "We will stand by the Supreme Leader against any country which he views as the enemy." Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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sparkly wrote:¿ wrote:Arab foreign ministers accuse Iran of undermining regional securityQuote:"Iran has to decide what kind of neighbor it wants to be: a good neighbor or a chaotic neighbor and so far it behaves like the latter," UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan said following an emergency Arab League meeting in Cairo. Quote:If Iran continues to support "terrorism, sectarianism and violence", it would face opposition from all Arab countries, Jubeir told a news conference following the meeting. Ethnic differences. Arabs and Iranians are Muslim but Iranians are not Arabs. Arabs are Semites like the Hebrews but Iranians are Aryan/ Caucasian. I think Iranians are Persians, very different ethnicity, just like the Kurds and Pershmagas and Yazhidis. Portfolio: Sold
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