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Beware of 'Juakali' computerised car diagnosis
jaggernaut
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:10:07 PM
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My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.
gohill
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:26:22 PM
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That's true. Had a similar problem last year where the ABS, hand brake light and another light with two arrows pointing at each other could not go off. I was advised to change brake pads, then do wheel alignment, then wheel balancing. When a certain mechanic told me to buy the same kind of wheels(not putting into consideration that the wheels are of the same size) i said enough is enough. Then another guy diagnosed it and told me one of the brake cable or something has cut and he used a cellotape to hold it together. The lights went off and that was in april last year. I even today thank the guy and the trouble i had gone through.
GGK
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:05:12 PM
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I have the same problem with ABS & wheel pressure indicator... where is your guy I pay him a visit.

I've been ignoring them coz I don't like dealing with em quacks
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Foreman
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:20:55 AM
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What could be the cost of the latest version of a EUropean OnBoard Diagnosis(EOBD) Tool?
Anyone with leads?
Anyone with a link for interpreting error codes?

JkMwatha
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:13:11 PM
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Foreman wrote:
What could be the cost of the latest version of a EUropean OnBoard Diagnosis(EOBD) Tool?
Anyone with leads?
Anyone with a link for interpreting error codes?



I thought OBD is the generic name...
There are PC based tools, hand-held
Various types - VCM- OBD, MB star. Launch x431 master, autoboss30, etc
all have their benefits/limitations

depending on what you're looking for you could be looking at 50k - over 300k...
I think you can also get software just to upgrade - there was one @digitali here who dealt with such...
+ there were pages and pages of discussions here .... http://wazua.co.ke/forum...px?g=posts&m=156182
ndume
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:23:32 PM
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GGK wrote:
I have the same problem with ABS & wheel pressure indicator... where is your guy I pay him a visit.

I've been ignoring them coz I don't like dealing with em quacks


@GGK had a similar problem.....if its a toyota its probably the earthing for these two thats not connected to the car 'body' look out for some wire o the right side of the care next the wiper water reservoir..
....i agree its nothing major

hope this helps
GGK
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:37:59 PM
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ndume wrote:
GGK wrote:
I have the same problem with ABS & wheel pressure indicator... where is your guy I pay him a visit.

I've been ignoring them coz I don't like dealing with em quacks


@GGK had a similar problem.....if its a toyota its probably the earthing for these two thats not connected to the car 'body' look out for some wire o the right side of the care next the wiper water reservoir..
....i agree its nothing major

hope this helps


Asante sana... I'll have it checked. And yes its a Toyoo
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chiaroscuro
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:33:36 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.



Please give the name and contacts of this good diagnosis guy.
livie
#9 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:35:12 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.



Please give the name and contacts of this good diagnosis guy.



names and numbers please!
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jaggernaut
#10 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:08:39 PM
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livie wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.



Please give the name and contacts of this good diagnosis guy.



names and numbers please!


This is his no. 0722704312
livie
#11 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:28:29 PM
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Foreman wrote:
What could be the cost of the latest version of a EUropean OnBoard Diagnosis(EOBD) Tool?
Anyone with leads?
Anyone with a link for interpreting error codes?



haya link ndio hiyo..http://www.obd-codes.com/
If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
livie
#12 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:33:14 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
livie wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.



Please give the name and contacts of this good diagnosis guy.



names and numbers please!


This is his no. 0722704312

thank you....
If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
Impunity
#13 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:41:11 PM
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Asanta for the number.
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QW25091985
#14 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:00:21 PM
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livie wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
livie wrote:
chiaroscuro wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
My car (2003 Toyota) was having that 'check engine' light on and so went to some guys who I see advertising computerised diagnosis for help. They hooked their machine to the car's CPU and printed out the error code i. e. SVL error. I asked them the way forward they said that to 'solve' the problem we just had to delete the error code from the car's memory which they did and the light went off. That's when I realised they didn't know what they were doing. I mean deleting the message doesn't solve the problem. When I put them to task about their lack of knowledge they said the problem was the cylinder head gasket that needed changing. Then that the thermostat needed to be unplugged otherwise the car would overheat and melt the engine etc etc.

I didn't want them to touch the car again so I left and nearly refused to pay for their so called diagnosis. I called my mechanic and he refered me to some guy who did the diagnosis again. It was the same error code and he correctly interpreted the problem to be the solenoid valve. We changed the valve and the problem disappeared and the light went off. And it's now been six months of problem free motoring.

Be careful who you consult since many mechanics have that diagnosis gadget nowadays but few know to interprete the error codes.



Please give the name and contacts of this good diagnosis guy.



names and numbers please!


This is his no. 0722704312

thank you....



thanks for the number. But i dnt know if he'll be able to handle my metallic lambo ! Lolest Laughing out loudly
deadpoet
#15 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:38:13 AM
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Anyone still know of a person who does vehicle diagnosis? This thread is over three years old now and the person quoted might not still be in the business.

My check engine light came on, so I would like to be referred to a reputable place for diagnosis.
jimmy1
#16 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:50:04 AM
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@deadpoet, contact dan, 722-322-505. On parkroad ngara, opposite TSS petrol station, near guru Nanak hospital
innovator
#17 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 12:13:46 PM
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Some of the software used may not be the best for particular car models. Just like phones there are many clones diagonistic machines. The best guys are those who specialize in a specific make or model with the right machine and tools.
Those Machines that do Toyota only are more detailed.
Universal machines may be at times misleading.

deadpoet
#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:19:16 PM
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Hmmm, noted on the clone software. Still, this dan fellow might be worth a try.
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