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Uhuru will be a one term president
limanika
#41 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:06:53 PM
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Iganamagana wrote:
limanika wrote:
What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh


No. He will NOT have the last laugh. Voter apathy will be overwhelmed by fear of Bupamba. Whether this fear is unfounded or not, the reality is that it is real.

Capitalise on fear of Bupamba at this tym and age? Try something else. This would only work in NRB where he already has 40-50% of the vote under lock and key anyway. With county govts, increasingly pple mashinani dont care much who is at the centre, only problem is if economy aint doing well and they cant afford basic needs
Kratos
#42 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:30:56 PM
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limanika wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
limanika wrote:
What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh


No. He will NOT have the last laugh. Voter apathy will be overwhelmed by fear of Bupamba. Whether this fear is unfounded or not, the reality is that it is real.

Capitalise on fear of Bupamba at this tym and age? Try something else. This would only work in NRB where he already has 40-50% of the vote under lock and key anyway. With county govts, increasingly pple mashinani dont care much who is at the centre, only problem is if economy aint doing well and they cant afford basic needs



@ Limanika political predictions are as useless as tits on a nun. Look up similar threads prior to 2013 election, you will find over 10 stating that UK will never be president, Baba will win in round one, Peter Kenneth is a is very strong candidate and so on and so forth. You Cannot claim your feelings here to be facts. Just because you have opened over 20 threads discrediting jubilee, it doesn't translate to support or lack off for the current government. Kenyans vote on tribe and that is what is going to determine who will be at the house on the hill. Hii ingine ni pang'ang'a

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
limanika
#43 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:41:04 PM
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@ kratos where did I open 20 threads discrediting jubilee? Even if I had, how many Kenyans visit wazua - and take my posts 4 gospel truth for this to have effect. This is a debating forum, you give your opinion and support with facts. And are you proud that Kenyans vote on basis of tribe. Do you vote on this basis yourself?
Kratos
#44 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:56:05 PM
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limanika wrote:
@ kratos where did I open 20 threads discrediting jubilee? Even if I had, how many Kenyans visit wazua - and take my posts 4 gospel truth for this to have effect. This is a debating forum, you give your opinion and support with facts. And are you proud that Kenyans vote on basis of tribe. Do you vote on this basis yourself?


Who said pointing out what is basically fact that Kenyans vote on tribal basis is an endorsement of the same. As for the threads I have no qualms just pointing out, and by the way yours are mostly sensational just like .Ke media full of biased analysis. Whoever I vote for or not is a personal decision, hence the term secret ballot.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
kaka2za
#45 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:30:10 PM
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limanika wrote:
Iganamagana wrote:
limanika wrote:
What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh


No. He will NOT have the last laugh. Voter apathy will be overwhelmed by fear of Bupamba. Whether this fear is unfounded or not, the reality is that it is real.

Capitalise on fear of Bupamba at this tym and age? Try something else. This would only work in NRB where he already has 40-50% of the vote under lock and key anyway. With county govts, increasingly pple mashinani dont care much who is at the centre, only problem is if economy aint doing well and they cant afford basic needs


You are thinking is logical.Unfortunately that does not apply in real politik.
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limanika
#46 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:37:08 PM
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Kratos wrote:
limanika wrote:
@ kratos where did I open 20 threads discrediting jubilee? Even if I had, how many Kenyans visit wazua - and take my posts 4 gospel truth for this to have effect. This is a debating forum, you give your opinion and support with facts. And are you proud that Kenyans vote on basis of tribe. Do you vote on this basis yourself?


Who said pointing out what is basically fact that Kenyans vote on tribal basis is an endorsement of the same. As for the threads I have no qualms just pointing out, and by the way yours are mostly sensational just like .Ke media full of biased analysis. Whoever I vote for or not is a personal decision, hence the term secret ballot.

Thank you for endorsing my view that voting based on tribes is not something we should be proud about. And which are these sensational posts you are talking about. You sound like someone with hands in cookie jar, otherwise haven't you seen pork declare corruption a national disaster, CSs quitting on corruption allegations, debt levels increasing like never b4? Is this reality or mere sensation?
githundi
#47 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:54:33 PM
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This debate is pointless. .A year is very long in politics. So many things will have changed by then.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
tycho
#48 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:03:31 PM
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Uhuru is too young for a two term presidency leave alone a single term.
Kratos
#49 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:42:06 PM
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limanika wrote:
Kratos wrote:
limanika wrote:
@ kratos where did I open 20 threads discrediting jubilee? Even if I had, how many Kenyans visit wazua - and take my posts 4 gospel truth for this to have effect. This is a debating forum, you give your opinion and support with facts. And are you proud that Kenyans vote on basis of tribe. Do you vote on this basis yourself?


Who said pointing out what is basically fact that Kenyans vote on tribal basis is an endorsement of the same. As for the threads I have no qualms just pointing out, and by the way yours are mostly sensational just like .Ke media full of biased analysis. Whoever I vote for or not is a personal decision, hence the term secret ballot.

Thank you for endorsing my view that voting based on tribes is not something we should be proud about. And which are these sensational posts you are talking about. You sound like someone with hands in cookie jar, otherwise haven't you seen pork declare corruption a national disaster, CSs quitting on corruption allegations, debt levels increasing like never b4? Is this reality or mere sensation?


Hehehe wish I knew where the cookie jar is first. Anyway like Githundi above these kind of posts are more or less redundant. Anyway we continue the discussion in the new year. Merry Christmas!

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Ericsson
#50 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2015 7:21:37 AM
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Come 2017 watu wa nyumba will still vote for UMK.All these other things you hear are side shows.
The formation of one party JPK is to tame samoeii so that they can dump him after 2017 elections.His trap was already set and he has already thrown himself in.
Tweeter is nowadays the source of information on corruption in these regime.The days of secrets in gava ended with Mo1
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