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Impunity wrote:And Riasi moja cannot stay out of debe...so Uhunye is not a single term prezzo. If he had stayed out of the ballot in 2013, Uhuru wouldnt be in State house. If he wasnt on the ballot in 2007, Kibaki wouldnt have gone back to state house. I dont know about 2017, as politics can be fluid, but history can only teach so much about the future. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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maka wrote:limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh If we have a run off without a doubt OAR will win hands down.... Stories told for comfort sake, the man could not win despite being an incumbent.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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maka wrote:limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh If we have a run off without a doubt OAR will win hands down.... Suppose there was a run off in 2013! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:maka wrote:limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh If we have a run off without a doubt OAR will win hands down.... Stories told for comfort sake, the man could not win despite being an incumbent.
Someone is talking about voter apathy? .....that will never happen. Not when a whole community feel threatened that they will lose their properties if a certain candidate gets to state house.
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Liv wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:maka wrote:limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh If we have a run off without a doubt OAR will win hands down.... Stories told for comfort sake, the man could not win despite being an incumbent.
Someone is talking about voter apathy? .....that will never happen. Not when a whole community feel threatened that they will lose their properties if a certain candidate gets to state house. I am beginning to believe the same too about Uhunye being a one term president, waiting to see the outcome of Eurobond and Rao will have won big time. But as usual being away makes you rely on nothing but heresay. On voter apathy, Rao should use the same in central to sell himself .If people were to think well, you get nothing for voting in someone ,look at the goodies Uhuru has taken to Nyanza , Western and other parts and look at what he has taken to Central. You elect Rao and see the goodies he will bring you  I thought in 2013 Rao got more votes from central/eastern (meru) than what Uhuruto got from Nyanza ????
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maka wrote:limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh If we have a run off without a doubt OAR will win hands down.... Riftvalley counties will be key in 2017 . in 2013 risasi got +700000 votes while uhuru got +2million votes turnout was around 70% now given how jubilee has ringfenced the region kutoka turkana hadi maasai 300000 votes will be a tall order for risasi expect jubilee to push for voter registration and turnout target being +3million votes now risasi has to find a region to counter this natusiseme western we know how they vote. Hapa ndio kibarua itakuwa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh Turn out might be low in Jubilee strongholds but not due to the issues you have stated. Most voters don't know Eurobond ni mnyama gani. Generally, there is a feeling that UK has underachieved compared with Ubako. Jubilee must come up with a scare/ fear factor to make their supporters vote. I won't be surprised if some Idi Amin movie gets regular airplay soon.However the most likely tool will be to create fear that Risasi will nationalise all properties for subsequent redistribution. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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FYI many in milimani strongholds who voted in opposition genuinely since 92' felt their choice was better and would revive economy. Mismanage the economy and you enter uncharted territory as far as this constituency is concerned
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437
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limanika wrote:What we know is that there will be runoff in 2017. What we don't know is who will win it. But looking at 2013 figures, give bupamba Madvd votes, factor voter apathy in jubilee strongholds coz of eurobond and such, bupamba could end up with last laugh No. He will NOT have the last laugh. Voter apathy will be overwhelmed by fear of Bupamba. Whether this fear is unfounded or not, the reality is that it is real.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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This thread typifies what is wrong with Kenya and why Kenya is a black hole. Ruto is a noted thief. The biggest thief in Kenya today. All his wealth is from loting government coffers since the YK92 days. He is the biggest land grabber we have seen in the last 30 years. He is also responsible for much of the violence in 2008 likely including the burning of 35 people in a church in Kiambaa. Yet he is respected by the very same people who are victims accept him as Vice president. And none of his actions factor in any discussion.
I am not naive. I know that there are no innocent politicians in Kenya. But the fact that the worst culprit is the respected vice president is an indictment on the country and our flawed thinking. Don't expect any of Kenya's problems to be solved anytime soon.
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