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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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murchr wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@maka - Is this really from McKinsey of the US? [Or a fake McKinsey registered by Alex Mbugua?]
I have noticed that the list/recommendation contains atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes abound. LOL noticed, they should clarify if it is Kenya or US just like china road and bridge kenya ltd and china road and bridge international. Wacheni wanaa! This was a secretary or individual in meeting taking short notes. Critique the content not grammar VVS expects the shorthand secretary to be from the US too These recommendations if well received by the staff, shall cause rapid results achievement. I repeat, full year results shall be key. Incase we have a PBT upturn of 30% or more, we shall be in the clear.. These are good times for KQ KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@maka - Is this really from McKinsey of the US? [Or a fake McKinsey registered by Alex Mbugua?]
I have noticed that the list/recommendation contains atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes abound. LOL noticed, they should clarify if it is Kenya or US just like china road and bridge kenya ltd and china road and bridge international. Wacheni wanaa! This was a secretary or individual in meeting taking short notes. Critique the content not grammar VVS expects the shorthand secretary to be from the US too Is this the sort of response that you have? Where is the QUALITY? There was a time when everyone including a secretary, at that level, was expected to have a minimum working knowledge of English. This is about QUALITY. Would you like to eat Cucu? Would you like to eat, Cucu? Let's discuss content. - Some of the recommendations are atrocious unless this is just a brainstorming session. - Deming. Bottomline: I remain very, very, very glad I switched my KQ for KenRe & KenolKobil. Not only did I stop my losses but seeing what KQ is upto... it seems the losses for those who still have KQ will continue. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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  KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@maka - Is this really from McKinsey of the US? [Or a fake McKinsey registered by Alex Mbugua?]
I have noticed that the list/recommendation contains atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes abound. lol...every department is supposed to come with cost cutting measures,this is what they have presented to the Mckinsey guys...All of them will be input on a cost cutting application called "Wave" and monitored weekly.Errors ni za watu wa KQ...you should see the incident reports from some of their team leaders....  What happened to Seabury consultants? McKinsey seem to be hogging all the limelight here and given that they are one trick ponies (cost cutting), whatever recommendations they come up with won't cut it. Business Process Re-engineering is what is required at Kq if it is to ever turn around its negative equity position. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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Look who's not flying KQ https://twitter.com/CynthiaNyamaiGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. Warren Buffett's rules for investing: 1) Do not lose money. 2) Follow Rule #1 Yes, you are right. The writing is on the wall. B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y ... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. Warren Buffett's rules for investing: 1) Do not lose money. 2) Follow Rule #1 Yes, you are right. The writing is on the wall. B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y ... 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m lossCynthia Nyamai cannot warrant my attention. She is part of the crew that laid siege at KQ, with Naikuni.. www.kenyanbachelor.blogs...ge-her-cheating.html?m=1 KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa
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Mtoto wa CHATU pia ni NYOKA. If your father was a wicked emperor so you are! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:obiero wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@maka - Is this really from McKinsey of the US? [Or a fake McKinsey registered by Alex Mbugua?]
I have noticed that the list/recommendation contains atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes abound. LOL noticed, they should clarify if it is Kenya or US just like china road and bridge kenya ltd and china road and bridge international. Wacheni wanaa! This was a secretary or individual in meeting taking short notes. Critique the content not grammar VVS expects the shorthand secretary to be from the US too Is this the sort of response that you have? Where is the QUALITY? There was a time when everyone including a secretary, at that level, was expected to have a minimum working knowledge of English. This is about QUALITY. Would you like to eat Cucu? Would you like to eat, Cucu? Let's discuss content. - Some of the recommendations are atrocious unless this is just a brainstorming session. - Deming. Bottomline: I remain very, very, very glad I switched my KQ for KenRe & KenolKobil. Not only did I stop my losses but seeing what KQ is upto... it seems the losses for those who still have KQ will continue. I do not expect poor English from an employee of KQ even the cargo loading guy, All in all I can see KQ at 10% gain this morning, sad to say I own 1,000/- shares bought at 5.10/-, so I have some interest although very little. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time. Let us review in exactly five months, I have reason to believe the worst is behind us. Todays top gainer?? KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. Warren Buffett's rules for investing: 1) Do not lose money. 2) Follow Rule #1 Yes, you are right. The writing is on the wall. B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y ... 1. WALMART: Buffet USD 390M loss2. IBM: Buffet USD 500m loss3. TESCO: Buffet USD 750m lossCynthia Nyamai cannot warrant my attention. She is part of the crew that laid siege at KQ, with Naikuni.. www.kenyanbachelor.blogs...ge-her-cheating.html?m=1  I have no idea about any dalliances pale KQ lakini losses I know about! Ahem, Warren Buffett runs a firm with a POSITIVE Shareholders' Equity. And his firm makes a profit unlike KQ. And has made profits for the past 3 years unlike KQ. And Berkshire is expected to make a profit this year too unlike you-know-who. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,798 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero Warren Buffet says be careful investing in a firm that has a huge debt portfolio and making losses. How will it pay the debts it owes and with negative equity. KCB can't be compared to KQ because KCB when Sunil Shah was buying had no debts;just making losses yet it had potential. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,298 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals Sunil Shah was the 'non-executive' director who pushed for the restructuring of KCB and was instrumental in its hiring choices as well as strategy. And he owned 10% [at one point] of KCB. Plus he was an experienced businessman. He made sure the old management was kicked out. 100% of them. Who is Alex Mbugua?Name me a single director, on KQ's board, whose calibre matches Sunil Shah?Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals If you belief in KQ so much, buy yourself a substantial holding. KES 5,000 worth of shares... That is Nyongo's lunch at Kempiski. You need to invest at least the equivalent of Vera Sidika's weave! Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,069 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:the dust shall settle upon full year results.. people like @vvs should read on how Sunil Shah made it to billionaire status.. buy when there is fear. never move with the crowd. thats the key to success, not quail like frenzy.. look at a gem while still covered in mud and realise the beauty underneath. KQ will make me rich, just waiting for a few more signals Sunil Shah was the 'non-executive' director who pushed for the restructuring of KCB and was instrumental in its hiring choices as well as strategy. And he owned 10% [at one point] of KCB. Plus he was an experienced businessman. He made sure the old management was kicked out. 100% of them. Who is Alex Mbugua?Name me a single director, on KQ's board, whose calibre matches Sunil Shah? Pieter Elbers, Rague, Ogwapit, Wanjiku.. These are pedigree directors at KQ.. FYI, Sunil Shah has never held more than 2% of KCB issued shares @ericsson good knowledge of KCB there.. atleast you detest propaganda @sparkly I have more than 1m pending on the wings for KQ.. Come full year, I am bound to go in big KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:  We are ready for the temporary losses. Soon we shall reach the desired place @maka @spikes @aguy @afroblk @muganda.. People have a new profession in bashing KQ, but they dont bother to tell you operating loss went down by KES 8.3B and that the loss before income tax actually narrowed marginally prior to consideration of the tax expense, noting last year KRA gave in a huge tax credit of backdated sums.. A trying period, but all is not lost. The writing is on the wall.. The figures tell a story. The story that KQ will be in trouble for a long long time. Let us review in exactly five months, I have reason to believe the worst is behind us. Todays top gainer?? Problem with KQ is a very weak topline. The company needs to double the topline just to break even. I doubt if they are covering their fixed costs. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,798 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero VituVingiSana is right At one point Sunil Shah owned 10% of KCB shares split amongst the following; Him himself;shares held under his name Through a nominee account for United Millers that he used to invest in KCB. But he has been gradually reducing his stake and investing the money in putting up commercial complexes like United Mall in Kisumu Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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