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Magufuli now bans MEAT
sitaki.kujulikana
#31 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:28:07 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
streetwise wrote:
This one man show is not sustainable , he needs to create processes, systems and institutions that can consistently deliver.

He should operate more at policy level if he is going to succeed.

true, while its all good to ban anything he deems excessive, if he does not move with the same vigor to steady the institutions it will all come to zero work.

I think he is of the school of thought that the more you save the more you become richer since your bank account has more cash.

He needs to move that energy into delivery, stop focusing too much on expenditure and corruption and focus on service delivery and a decent life for his people, after that the people will deal with expenditure and corruption.


Saving and investing makes one rich.

Where do you think he should get the funds to deliver services and give decent lives?
He cancelled celebrations and directed those funds in improving conditions at one of the hospitals, what do you call that?

Without all the corruption and wastage we have here,how many Thika Roads, JKIA new terminals, dams,hospitals, stadia etc etc.
Wouldn't that mean better service delivery and better lives?

I don't think they necessarily go hand in hand, for instance a lot of money in your account does not necessarily mean a good life for your family.

My take might not be right, but I have always thought if you focus on service delivery then corruption will automatically be dealt with.

If there are clear set deliverables for each ministry and a focus on the results, then for me it does not matter if the workers decide to eat meat samosas, work from home, inflate and give projects to their cronies, as long as they deliver on the set goals as a leader I will be good.
hardwood
#32 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 2:18:29 PM
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At least he has done something major, sacking the Anti-corruption body chief for under-performance - failing to tackle high level graft.

http://www.the-star.co.k...nderperformance_c1262957
Alba
#33 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:06:26 PM
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Joined: 12/27/2012
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Location: Bandalungwa
As far as I am concerned, Magufuli is a hero. if you look at government waste and spending in Kenya you would think we are an advanced 1st world country. We waste money on nonsense yet fail to provide basic essentials to the people.

The mere fact that Magufuli is making Uhuru, Museveni, Kibaki, Kagame etc look bad : that alone makes him a hero. He is showing that people with cojones can get things done.

I hope that in my lifetime, Kenya gets a Magufuli type.
mkeiy
#34 Posted : Friday, December 18, 2015 9:22:18 AM
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Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
streetwise wrote:
This one man show is not sustainable , he needs to create processes, systems and institutions that can consistently deliver.

He should operate more at policy level if he is going to succeed.

true, while its all good to ban anything he deems excessive, if he does not move with the same vigor to steady the institutions it will all come to zero work.

I think he is of the school of thought that the more you save the more you become richer since your bank account has more cash.

He needs to move that energy into delivery, stop focusing too much on expenditure and corruption and focus on service delivery and a decent life for his people, after that the people will deal with expenditure and corruption.


Saving and investing makes one rich.

Where do you think he should get the funds to deliver services and give decent lives?
He cancelled celebrations and directed those funds in improving conditions at one of the hospitals, what do you call that?

Without all the corruption and wastage we have here,how many Thika Roads, JKIA new terminals, dams,hospitals, stadia etc etc.
Wouldn't that mean better service delivery and better lives?

I don't think they necessarily go hand in hand, for instance a lot of money in your account does not necessarily mean a good life for your family. This is a gov't we are talking about,it has no business stashing cash in the banks. It spends to improve the lives of its populace.

My take might not be right, but I have always thought if you focus on service delivery then corruption will automatically be dealt with. Are you saying they necessarily go hand in hand? How do you focus on service delivery if all the resources are wasted or looted? Buying non-carcinogenic wheelbarrows and expensive curtains has to stop for those services to be rendered.

If there are clear set deliverables for each ministry and a focus on the results, then for me it does not matter if the workers decide to eat meat samosas, work from home, inflate and give projects to their cronies, as long as they deliver on the set goals as a leader I will be good. Results are the end product. By the time you get them, looting and wastage will have already messed up everything. The whole process needs to be monitored. By the way, who said he is not focusing on those deliverables?

kaka2za
#35 Posted : Friday, December 18, 2015 11:54:24 AM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
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Nothing new. ..seen that, heard that.Augustine Mrema did that in the 1990s. Just like Muchuki rules, individual driven changes don't last.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
sitaki.kujulikana
#36 Posted : Friday, December 18, 2015 12:06:24 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
mkeiy wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
streetwise wrote:
This one man show is not sustainable , he needs to create processes, systems and institutions that can consistently deliver.

He should operate more at policy level if he is going to succeed.

true, while its all good to ban anything he deems excessive, if he does not move with the same vigor to steady the institutions it will all come to zero work.

I think he is of the school of thought that the more you save the more you become richer since your bank account has more cash.

He needs to move that energy into delivery, stop focusing too much on expenditure and corruption and focus on service delivery and a decent life for his people, after that the people will deal with expenditure and corruption.


Saving and investing makes one rich.

Where do you think he should get the funds to deliver services and give decent lives?
He cancelled celebrations and directed those funds in improving conditions at one of the hospitals, what do you call that?

Without all the corruption and wastage we have here,how many Thika Roads, JKIA new terminals, dams,hospitals, stadia etc etc.
Wouldn't that mean better service delivery and better lives?

I don't think they necessarily go hand in hand, for instance a lot of money in your account does not necessarily mean a good life for your family. This is a gov't we are talking about,it has no business stashing cash in the banks. It spends to improve the lives of its populace.

My take might not be right, but I have always thought if you focus on service delivery then corruption will automatically be dealt with. Are you saying they necessarily go hand in hand? How do you focus on service delivery if all the resources are wasted or looted? Buying non-carcinogenic wheelbarrows and expensive curtains has to stop for those services to be rendered.

If there are clear set deliverables for each ministry and a focus on the results, then for me it does not matter if the workers decide to eat meat samosas, work from home, inflate and give projects to their cronies, as long as they deliver on the set goals as a leader I will be good. Results are the end product. By the time you get them, looting and wastage will have already messed up everything. The whole process needs to be monitored. By the way, who said he is not focusing on those deliverables?


sawa
Alba
#37 Posted : Friday, December 18, 2015 4:07:50 PM
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Joined: 12/27/2012
Posts: 2,256
Location: Bandalungwa
kaka2za wrote:
Nothing new. ..seen that, heard that.Augustine Mrema did that in the 1990s. Just like Muchuki rules, individual driven changes don't last.


Except Michuki rules did not make the slightest sense.
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