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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:It would be so unfair if I also do not bare it a little. Dsl. Imagine. Sitting down to weather a stocks down turn and all you got to do is do calculations of moves and you can not do anything other than be a student of muandiwambeu's xyz Co. Ltd. That's how I emerged out of 2011 bear run. I really took so many chill pills and cold tuskers. I do blame myself because the signs where real but I acted late. Sold cmc at 20 from 11 and bugged my profit but not cash. At the date of placing order I heard a lady complain that a bank xxx was not honoring Dsl cheques. My heart skipped a beat. Not sure what to do I left for my weekend to plan my strategy. After further analysis, I realized so many of my holding counters were in sale position. So the plan was ready sell all my holdings and cash out of Dsl. Come the following week the market was in a hell of a slide. None of my sale went through despite having been on best salling price range. Revised prices down by 15% and sale failed altogether- that's called a bear run. Then the annoying news came knocking. What! Statutory management ASAP. No more selling no cashing out. Imagine a section of my fellow citizens would quarter me on site if I missed a step into their pockets ever again. I got a financial divorce faster faster for messing up someone's cash on casino like investment and chilling on their chums. Lessons were plenty. Never tried to figure out the numbers lost cause I would never touch a stock again. To that I still own a chuck of Mumias shares so transfered to ksl that will always keep me cautioned. nose so ya faint hearted. Amen brother. Confession is good for the soul. We cannot have the NSE index drift from 5,015 to 3,990 in twelve months and people chest thump here that they have no loss position in their counters. Wanafik.. We shall live to invest in better times. For now, we strategise :) HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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@Obiero. Believe it or not my portfolio is in the green this year. The stocks I hold- TPS, KK, BAMB have have not dropped that much compared to the beginning of the year, BAMB intact is higher.This is because their prices were already depressed even when the bear struck. Add dividends( which I reinvest every last cent) and interest from bonds I'm profitable this year.around 6%. Despite NSE being 22% down. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:@Obiero. Believe it or not my portfolio is in the green this year. The stocks I hold- TPS, KK, BAMB have have not dropped that much compared to the beginning of the year, BAMB intact is higher.This is because their prices were already depressed even when the bear struck. Add dividends( which I reinvest every last cent) and interest from bonds I'm profitable this year.around 6%. Despite NSE being 22% down. Good for you bro. So u compare beginning of the year to current market value, or your initial buy price HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/1/2010 Posts: 272 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software The harder you work, the luckier you get
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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kryptonite wrote:sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Swenani wrote:kryptonite wrote:sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/28/2015 Posts: 1,247
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obiero wrote:Swenani wrote:kryptonite wrote:sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software Laughter, does not come cheap, had I had sparkly pull a smart one on me in 2011, I would have saved on chill pills and cold tusker and I wouldn't be with a cheap one. @obiero cheerful! What else would I expect at wazua any day. ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:Swenani wrote:kryptonite wrote:sparkly wrote:muandiwambeu wrote:obiero wrote:jerry wrote:@maundiWambeu, When you sense that a stockbroker is going under you don't liquidate your stock, you buy shares with remaining cash. When a company is going under, you sell shares. Makes some sense That was then. I said lessons were plenty. 1. CDSC was and probably will be sleeping high_no updates of what really your holding is. 2. reliable and not perfect information was scarce. It was acknee to digging for gold in kakamega 3. How advanced cancer was in dsl was fizzy. 4. I had a paying banker and I would have been better off with cash. Cash was king any day then. Luckilys enough is was incarcerated on a greater average in stocks for all well documented. Had it been in cash(sold stocks or cash balances or unaccounted bought stocks) I would been deep in real shot. Luck was with me any day then and i was lucky but lessons were many. I feel nse may have to suffer some kind of nukes fire works to see such kind of value plays again. One just needed to rob a bank coz you would afford both fines penalties and pay damages and keep you balance by end of trial. Dsl robbed it's clients that golden chance and paid without penalties or fines 2to 3yrs later. Are you posting in Kiembu then translating to English with a cheap software Laughter, does not come cheap, had I had sparkly pull a smart one on me in 2011, I would have saved on chill pills and cold tusker and I wouldn't be with a cheap one. @obiero cheerful! What else would I expect at wazua any day. I love you too man HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:@Obiero. Believe it or not my portfolio is in the green this year. The stocks I hold- TPS, KK, BAMB have have not dropped that much compared to the beginning of the year, BAMB intact is higher.This is because their prices were already depressed even when the bear struck. Add dividends( which I reinvest every last cent) and interest from bonds I'm profitable this year.around 6%. Despite NSE being 22% down. Good for you bro. So u compare beginning of the year to current market value, or your initial buy price Both. But more emphasis on the financial calendar year performance, I concentrate on the whole portfolio. So whenever a stock was bought, it will be captured at that final year performance report. For the individual stock is just a glance, at the stocks portfolio. Where I know for example kk is down almost 10%. Capital gain/loss wise without dividends. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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in the continued spirit of wazua openess. see below my portfolio of all trades since joining the NSE in 2005 with first purchase being 100 HFCK shares. also included are Uganda and Rwanda stock purchases, that have since been liquidated in full HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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obiero wrote:in the continued spirit of wazua openess. see below my portfolio of all trades since joining the NSE in 2005 with first purchase being 100 HFCK shares. also included are Uganda and Rwanda stock purchases, that have since been liquidated in full A net gain of 1,235,621 over 10 years if I am not wrong. Fellow wazuans anyone doing better? Anyone hit 5m realised capital gains?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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mulla wrote:obiero wrote:in the continued spirit of wazua openess. see below my portfolio of all trades since joining the NSE in 2005 with first purchase being 100 HFCK shares. also included are Uganda and Rwanda stock purchases, that have since been liquidated in full A net gain of 1,235,621 over 10 years if I am not wrong. Fellow wazuans anyone doing better? Anyone hit 5m realised capital gains? Its actually KES 1,246,961.. There could be some doing better, chaps like @stocksmaster @minto @muganda @guru267 @mwekez@ji *HFCK 2 had been transposed as 3,100 while holding is actually 1,300. The '2' indicative of stocks that I have re-entered after having initially offloaded HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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just got confirmation that my buy order of 500 additional KQ went through.. slow but steady build up, with ear critically to the ground. investment horizon of atleast 2 years, forecasting minimum exit price of KES 17.. i urge no one to follow me, hii inaitwa high octane investment strategy.. never invest money that u cannot afford to loose HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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obiero wrote:just got confirmation that my buy order of 500 additional KQ went through.. slow but steady build up, with ear critically to the ground. investment horizon of atleast 2 years, forecasting minimum exit price of KES 17.. i urge no one to follow me, hii inaitwa high octane investment strategy.. never invest money that u cannot afford to loose Good idea to post this "progress"in the worst stock investment thread. Life is short. Live passionately.
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sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:just got confirmation that my buy order of 500 additional KQ went through.. slow but steady build up, with ear critically to the ground. investment horizon of atleast 2 years, forecasting minimum exit price of KES 17.. i urge no one to follow me, hii inaitwa high octane investment strategy.. never invest money that u cannot afford to loose Good idea to post this " progress"in the worst stock investment thread. Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Not trading If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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