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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Gatheuzi
#2921 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 7:08:40 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/16/2009
Posts: 994
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....

How safe is it to fly KQ? Is there enough money to carry out proper routine maintenance on planes?
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
obiero
#2922 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 7:10:03 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....

Kwisha.. On a holiday weekend. Bad memories are made of such. This brand has taken massive knocks

KQ ABP 4.26
Impunity
#2923 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:21:00 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

maka
#2924 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:44:13 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....
possunt quia posse videntur
Othelo
#2925 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:47:07 AM
Rank: User


Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Impunity
#2926 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:55:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#2927 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 1:04:24 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!

Not seeing delays or cancellations on the departures for today.. Seems the hiccup was sorted

KQ ABP 4.26
muandiwambeu
#2928 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 4:43:21 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!

Not seeing delays or cancellations on the departures for today.. Seems the hiccup was sorted

What I do not doubt is someone knows he/she is being and swiftly hard getting shafted . do not.. May be metion Isis if xxxxy is not getting it cool. As arbitration goes so goes the need for blood-evidence.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
maka
#2929 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:16:07 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!


Na Uber...first pick up was at 5.15 am after the firm was promised cash in the course of the day but honestly...for how long will this continue...when will the situation improve,living hand to mouth.

possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#2930 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:23:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!


Na Uber...first pick up was at 5.15 am after the firm was promised cash in the course of the day but honestly...for how long will this continue...when will the situation improve,living hand to mouth.


pole kaka.. help is on the way via senate recommendations. let us clean this thing up. KQ is a good business, run down by bad people

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#2931 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:21:08 PM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,298
Location: Nairobi
Dear @Obiero,

Please ask your buddy Alex if KenolKobil is owed anything by KQ?
If yes, please pay up so that my dividend isn't held hostage.

Sincerely,

VVS
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2932 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 11:24:16 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Dear @Obiero,

Please ask your buddy Alex if KenolKobil is owed anything by KQ?
If yes, please pay up so that my dividend isn't held hostage.

Sincerely,

VVS

Should change your name to RCS.. Roho chafu sana :(

KQ ABP 4.26
Cde Monomotapa
#2933 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 9:29:02 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/13/2011
Posts: 5,964
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Dear @Obiero,

Please ask your buddy Alex if KenolKobil is owed anything by KQ?
If yes, please pay up so that my dividend isn't held hostage.

Sincerely,

VVS

Should change your name to RCS.. Roho chafu sana :(


I'm certain what @vvs means is that KQ also work on improving its yields & margins. That way KQ can continue to fly KK's expansive Pan-African footprint.

If ever KK re-enters the JetA1 segment, @vvs keep us briefed smile
Pesa Nane
#2934 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 7:14:30 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
War drums are starting to beat

Bizdaily 11-Dec-2015
Quote:

KQ, Uchumi’s decline to zero net worth puts CMA on the spot

"National carrier Kenya Airways tops the list having chalked up liabilities in excess of its assets "...

"Analysts said the logical thing for the regulator to do was to suspend a company from trading on the NSE once its net-worth has dropped to zero, meaning it has become a liability to the owners. Such action is followed by the regulator asking the directors and the management of such companies to table before investors proposals on how they plan to recover with specific milestones. The alternative is to ask the companies to go into voluntary receivership or bankruptcy."

Suspension of an insolvent companies from the NSE or the slipping of such a company into bankruptcy would give it time to assess the possibility of getting back to business or should in fact be liquidated to save owners from further losses. Where a company has a negative working capital it should show how it will do business in the next one year.
Analysts also said it was unethical for directors and management to continue running an organisation they have reason to believe is facing serious hurdles in doing business, thereby giving false hopes to investors, employees, supplies and financiers.

Mr Muthusi said that once a company falls into insolvency, the best thing to do is to allow it to fall into receivership to sort out the problems or liquidate it.

“Once you start making losses it eats into capital and insolvency becomes end result unless there is some intervention. An insolvent company is no longer owned by shareholders — as it might legally appear — but in fact by creditors,” said Mr Muthusi, adding that many firms collapse because of corporate governance rather than market failure.

“The board and management normally know at least two years in advance that a company is in some difficulties. That is why they are responsible for whatever happens. They can be sued for not properly notifying stakeholders. Again you shouldn’t be trading on the stock exchange if you are bankrupt.”

Ms Waitherero said the regulator should protect investors by suspending a financially distressed company till they put their house in order. “When you see the problems are a bit extended and not a one-off the good this is to suspend the company from trading,” said Ms Waitherero.

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
githundi
#2935 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 7:49:54 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 11/19/2010
Posts: 1,308
Location: nairobi metropolitan
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Othelo wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Bad morning...it's going to be chaotic

Whats happened


Amicabre has refused to ferry staff until they are paid....expected delays...more money to be spent on HOTAC...vicious cycle....


@maka?


Nimedo....

Ulifika works aje?


Nataka jua!


Na Uber...first pick up was at 5.15 am after the firm was promised cash in the course of the day but honestly...for how long will this continue...when will the situation improve,living hand to mouth.


pole kaka.. help is on the way via senate recommendations. let us clean this thing up. KQ is a good business, run down by bad people

Not so fast. ..Indeed not with promotion of guys with more than 2 jobs. .or is it so easy to at KQ. ..?
C&P
'Prior to his appointment, Mr Omondi was the head of human resource at the carrier where has also held several other positions including head of operations control, cargo operations and general manager at the airline’s low-cost subsidiary JamboJet.

Mr Omondi has a Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Nairobi and an MBA in accounting and finance from the same institution. He is also a part-time lecturer at the Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology where he teaches project management'
Democracy does not belong to the dead
VituVingiSana
#2936 Posted : Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:23:11 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,298
Location: Nairobi
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Dear @Obiero,

Please ask your buddy Alex if KenolKobil is owed anything by KQ?
If yes, please pay up so that my dividend isn't held hostage.

Sincerely,

VVS

Should change your name to RCS.. Roho chafu sana :(


I'm certain what @vvs means is that KQ also work on improving its yields & margins. That way KQ can continue to fly KK's expansive Pan-African footprint.

If ever KK re-enters the JetA1 segment, @vvs keep us briefed smile

KK is in the Jet A-1 biashara. Special offer for KQ. Prepaid only. Discounts will be given for prepaid purchases. Every day, credit terms will be promised starting the next day.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2937 Posted : Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:17:26 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
Pesa Nane wrote:
War drums are starting to beat

Bizdaily 11-Dec-2015
Quote:

KQ, Uchumi’s decline to zero net worth puts CMA on the spot

"National carrier Kenya Airways tops the list having chalked up liabilities in excess of its assets "...

"Analysts said the logical thing for the regulator to do was to suspend a company from trading on the NSE once its net-worth has dropped to zero, meaning it has become a liability to the owners. Such action is followed by the regulator asking the directors and the management of such companies to table before investors proposals on how they plan to recover with specific milestones. The alternative is to ask the companies to go into voluntary receivership or bankruptcy."

Suspension of an insolvent companies from the NSE or the slipping of such a company into bankruptcy would give it time to assess the possibility of getting back to business or should in fact be liquidated to save owners from further losses. Where a company has a negative working capital it should show how it will do business in the next one year.
Analysts also said it was unethical for directors and management to continue running an organisation they have reason to believe is facing serious hurdles in doing business, thereby giving false hopes to investors, employees, supplies and financiers.

Mr Muthusi said that once a company falls into insolvency, the best thing to do is to allow it to fall into receivership to sort out the problems or liquidate it.

“Once you start making losses it eats into capital and insolvency becomes end result unless there is some intervention. An insolvent company is no longer owned by shareholders — as it might legally appear — but in fact by creditors,” said Mr Muthusi, adding that many firms collapse because of corporate governance rather than market failure.

“The board and management normally know at least two years in advance that a company is in some difficulties. That is why they are responsible for whatever happens. They can be sued for not properly notifying stakeholders. Again you shouldn’t be trading on the stock exchange if you are bankrupt.”

Ms Waitherero said the regulator should protect investors by suspending a financially distressed company till they put their house in order. “When you see the problems are a bit extended and not a one-off the good this is to suspend the company from trading,” said Ms Waitherero.


''unethical to continue running a company when faced with serious hurdles'' sasa tufunge hii company ama vipi..

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#2938 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 9:48:12 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,298
Location: Nairobi
Why Ngunze stay at KQ rests on a wing and a prayer
http://www.businessdaily...06/-/w30thq/-/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Siringi
#2939 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 4:05:14 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/8/2013
Posts: 2,517
seen @kenyanWallstreet

"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
obiero
#2940 Posted : Monday, December 14, 2015 4:11:59 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,069
Location: nairobi
Siringi wrote:
seen @kenyanWallstreet


Today we are at KES 4.50.. @vvs @spikes @sparkly @aguytrying have gone to buy suits waiting for the death of KQ. such saddists

KQ ABP 4.26
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