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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
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#2801 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 3:29:21 PM
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I want to hear KQ employees sent packing. Let them go home. Less qualified staff kuajiriwa kujuana!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#2802 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 6:18:56 PM
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staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

KQ ABP 4.26
mlennyma
#2803 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 6:40:15 PM
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obiero wrote:
staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

As usual the union will come up to defend them to continue feeding on the carcass not knowing kq can't even get the money to retrench.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#2804 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 7:17:05 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

As usual the union will come up to defend them to continue feeding on the carcass not knowing kq can't even get the money to retrench.

Incase I was the CEO of this firm, I would turn a profit. The huge losses are artificial as suggested by the senate. money was stolen here

KQ ABP 4.26
mlennyma
#2805 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 7:33:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

As usual the union will come up to defend them to continue feeding on the carcass not knowing kq can't even get the money to retrench.

Incase I was the CEO of this firm, I would turn a profit. The huge losses are artificial as suggested by the senate. money was stolen here

many times a c.e.o who has been an employee when the mess happened may not be a good choice, an outsider with knowledge of the airline business can break the normal way of doing things and break any cartels,i know this guy has some incompetent staff friends he can't fire.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Cde Monomotapa
#2806 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 9:17:42 PM
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How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!
mlennyma
#2807 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 9:28:45 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!

i wish kq was a fully private company
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#2808 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 9:43:44 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!

i wish kq was a fully private company

November salary shall be paid in Dec and the Dec salary shall not be paid.. Kamenuka! PPT had better show up from tomorrow into the next few weeks. Kamenuka!!!

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#2809 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 11:01:44 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

As usual the union will come up to defend them to continue feeding on the carcass not knowing kq can't even get the money to retrench.

Incase I was the CEO of this firm, I would turn a profit. The huge losses are artificial as suggested by the senate. money was stolen here

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Finally. @obiero is slowly moving over to @VVS viewpoint. His buddy, Alex, ni Mwizi #1.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#2810 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 11:07:01 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!

i wish kq was a fully private company

November salary shall be paid in Dec and the Dec salary shall not be paid.. Kamenuka! PPT had better show up from tomorrow into the next few weeks. Kamenuka!!!
So no more #SuicideWatch for @obiero Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ahem, so do you still believe in the 18 month turnaround DEADline? d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
And those pie in the sky 25/- per share? Liar Liar Liar

Meanwhile my KK & KenRe are humming along. Making profits. Paying dividends. And firing useless under-performing employees. *That said, I am on the ground. I look around at every KK station I visit. I do not want to make the same mistake I made earlier. I try and read on how KE insurance firms are doing especially in regards to the insurance business. Don't believe everything you are told. If I feel I am going to be conned, I shall bail out at a loss but out I go*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2811 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:27:16 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!

i wish kq was a fully private company

November salary shall be paid in Dec and the Dec salary shall not be paid.. Kamenuka! PPT had better show up from tomorrow into the next few weeks. Kamenuka!!!
So no more #SuicideWatch for @obiero Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ahem, so do you still believe in the 18 month turnaround DEADline? d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
And those pie in the sky 25/- per share? Liar Liar Liar

Meanwhile my KK & KenRe are humming along. Making profits. Paying dividends. And firing useless under-performing employees. *That said, I am on the ground. I look around at every KK station I visit. I do not want to make the same mistake I made earlier. I try and read on how KE insurance firms are doing especially in regards to the insurance business. Don't believe everything you are told. If I feel I am going to be conned, I shall bail out at a loss but out I go*

@vvs. Usijione mwerevu sana. Going round KK petrol stations does not guarantee that there will be no fraud at that company

KQ ABP 4.26
Spikes
#2812 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:57:15 AM
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Adversity cometh like a thief! @obiero mwambie asikie!!!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
murchr
#2813 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:01:16 AM
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Kq is doomed if its managers keep thinking that they are working for some parastatal. Big salaries with no show of work by the directors. They should all take a pay cut get paid half the salary and then get a bonus when the company makes a profit. The brain wakes up when the environment is uncomfortable.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka
#2814 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:25:42 AM
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murchr wrote:
Kq is doomed if its managers keep thinking that they are working for some parastatal. Big salaries with no show of work by the directors. They should all take a pay cut get paid half the salary and then get a bonus when the company makes a profit. The brain wakes up when the environment is uncomfortable.


Well said Boss....even half is a lot...a quarter would serve them right....
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VituVingiSana
#2815 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:50:50 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!

i wish kq was a fully private company

November salary shall be paid in Dec and the Dec salary shall not be paid.. Kamenuka! PPT had better show up from tomorrow into the next few weeks. Kamenuka!!!
So no more #SuicideWatch for @obiero Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Ahem, so do you still believe in the 18 month turnaround DEADline? d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
And those pie in the sky 25/- per share? Liar Liar Liar

Meanwhile my KK & KenRe are humming along. Making profits. Paying dividends. And firing useless under-performing employees. *That said, I am on the ground. I look around at every KK station I visit. I do not want to make the same mistake I made earlier. I try and read on how KE insurance firms are doing especially in regards to the insurance business. Don't believe everything you are told. If I feel I am going to be conned, I shall bail out at a loss but out I go*

@vvs. Usijione mwerevu sana. Going round KK petrol stations does not guarantee that there will be no fraud at that company

Of course but it's good to kick the tyres once in a while. Talk to employees. For those of us who used to shop at Uchumi, we could see the end was nigh. Empty shelves, disgruntled employees and dirty stores.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
streetwise
#2816 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:17:53 AM
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If you want to know if a company is doing well check their outlets for customers, then do a mystery shopper thing and get a feel of their service. If the management can be trusted this will be a great sign of good things to come.

If these don't look good , eventually the company will run down , it does not matter how long it takes.

streetwise
#2817 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:20:21 AM
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If you want to know if a company is doing well check their outlets for customers, then do a mystery shopper thing and get a feel of their service. If the management can be trusted this will be a great sign of good things to come.

If these don't look good , eventually the company will run down , it does not matter how long it takes.

streetwise
#2818 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:22:10 AM
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If you want to know if a company is doing well check their outlets for customers, then do a mystery shopper thing and get a feel of their service. If the management can be trusted this will be a great sign of good things to come.

If these don't look good , eventually the company will run down , it does not matter how long it takes.

ProverB
#2819 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 1:47:49 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How about poaching ET staff? I mean, We Lead, Others Follow: 1. KQ got an all ladies 787 crew, Dreamgirls, ET went got one too.

2. KQ got an all Sino crew, ET went and got one too! Smh.

Even the ET CE secretly alluded that for extra points he'd work for airline X! (he should name names)

Dumbfounding too is with ET having double KQ's fleet capacity, they carry circa a 3rd more passengers?!? That means KQ has some hidden potential that must be found and unlocked!

Bottom line, a dynamic balance to the multi-stakeholders interests must be arrived at soon - minimal casualties. Inclusive of the fact that shareholder interests have been neglected much too long!


Unfortunately we seem to have better insight outside and away from KQ management. Sad
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mlennyma
#2820 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:05:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
staff retrenchment ikuje na tena haraka. always felt there are too many idle people esp ground crew at all local airports.. like the ones whos only job is to confirm the ticket and smile

what's the experience like when your family is fully aware you are working in a broke company Sad
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