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Much Know wrote:Don't know why it seems this is a war against Putin's ego, the fellow seems isolated, China is not interested in this "war" yes he has nuclear weapons (tusiende hapo please for now), but everyone has different objectives and Putin is badly outnumbered (unless iran is an alley to speak of), and his economy is shrinking, China seem more concerned with their internal affairs after killing one child policy, they are definitely not interested, is Russia and Putin not more or less alone, outnumbered seriously? Know Nothing, don't be such a sheep who believes and swears on 'herd mentality'. You have been told and shown countless times by a certain brother of ours how countries have been ruined one after another by a clique of contries acting like a herd. So now measures have been taken and the next threat will definitely be destroyed. Your sort of brinkmanship will ruin the world but those individuals not belonging to your sheepish herd will stop you.
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quicksand wrote:Much Know wrote:Don't know why it seems this is a war against Putin's ego, the fellow seems isolated, China is not interested in this "war" yes he has nuclear weapons (tusiende hapo please for now), but everyone has different objectives and Putin is badly outnumbered (unless iran is an alley to speak of), and his economy is shrinking, China seem more concerned with their internal affairs after killing one child policy, they are definitely not interested, is Russia and Putin not more or less alone, outnumbered seriously? Putin is not foolish I beg to differ, Putin is quite a foolish, masochistic "karate guy" idiot if you have never followed him in the press, his fighter pilots have been making provoking moves this is nothing new in the press, the guy put genuine business men on the oil issue you make a fuss out of in in jail and f***ed up the oil economy there, he does everything in Russia, typical KGB matakafa masochistic shit, the guy held a FAKE election to alledgely handover power to a new president, the guy becomes "prime minister" then suddenly he is really in the same position he was, this is the kind of utoto than can only be supported by peeps with utoi, do you know Putin? Guy is an idiot bwana! Assad used chemical weapon's for heavens sake, who sides with such? Remember the US was with Assad till the chemical weapon's fiasco. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Much Know wrote:quicksand wrote:Much Know wrote:Don't know why it seems this is a war against Putin's ego, the fellow seems isolated, China is not interested in this "war" yes he has nuclear weapons (tusiende hapo please for now), but everyone has different objectives and Putin is badly outnumbered (unless iran is an alley to speak of), and his economy is shrinking, China seem more concerned with their internal affairs after killing one child policy, they are definitely not interested, is Russia and Putin not more or less alone, outnumbered seriously? Putin is not foolish I beg to differ, Putin is quite a foolish, masochistic "karate guy" idiot if you have never followed him in the press, his fighter pilots have been making provoking moves this is nothing new in the press, the guy put genuine business men on the oil issue you make a fuss out of in in jail and f***ed up the oil economy there, he does everything in Russia, typical KGB matakafa masochistic shit, the guy held a FAKE election to alledgely handover power to a new president, the guy becomes "prime minister" then suddenly he is really in the same position he was, this is the kind of utoto than can only be supported by peeps with utoi, do you know Putin? Guy is an idiot bwana! Assad used chemical weapon's for heavens sake, who sides with such? Remember the US was with Assad till the chemical weapon's fiasco. So you dislike his antics. Fair enough. That was not my point though -my claim he is not foolish is in a narrow sense -you can't be on top in a country of billionaire cut-throats like Russia for this long if you don't have a devious, first-rate machiavellian mind. I don't condone most of the stuff he does, but deep dark down there some of it makes sense in a warped, out-of-the-world sort of way. May be Russia is one of those countries that needs a batshit crazy person ruling to keep it all together. Things look bad because there is relative calm and sanity there; we do not know what evil, destructive forces Putin has ruthlessly brought to heel, which let loose, Russia would look like the apocalypse, and the world again brought to the edge of an abyss by its scruff. For context, there is Gaddafi and Saddam. Intensely disliked by the rest of the world, the west in particular. And yes, they did deplorable things in their time, like the Lockerbie disaster, and the gassing of Kurds, to mention a few. Then the west orchestrated things and the 2 were ejected from power and now look where we are. The man who said better the devil you know might have had a point. Anyway, semantics.
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tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Check your facts. World war only happened when there was attempt to defeat existing superpower and transition to new one- something only done by force That's what happened because world order is dependent on powers and the balance of power holding them together. When order is threatened then the involved powers will have to act, and war has been a favorite tool. But it's not the only tool, or even an effective tool. And the alignments are always fluid. To make matters worse globalization won't allow for violence. Think of terrorism as the new art of war in a global arena. It's a big threat to stability; in the long term it's bad business. And nation states can no longer afford long wars. Even the use of robots is now being resisted. Power is shifting, or has shifted drastically. The world is more interdependent but world order has not yet been threatened. The balance of power may change but the system remains the same. War can be used as a scapegoat for global economic woes but benefiting from the death and suffering of others is still an acceptable part of the system. What makes you say that world order isn't under threat? Britain and the permanent members of the UNSC are the largest arms exporters.They are also the largest economies. The members may change and power may shift, but it's just winners and losers in the same order. It's like keeping score on the scramble for Africa.
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They wants to perform Onychectomy to the Bear.
In Ukraine and Syria..
The Bear takes Crimea mainly bec of Sevestopol
Now, Kiev has no ultimate control of Donestk.
Bear likes warm naval water of Sevestopol
Enter Syria…
Pipeline needs to pass thru Aleppo from 4 mid east countries.
Mostly Sunni nations
This will cripple the Bear Completely
Bear depends on fossil fuel mostly
Bear is resistant and has a Base there.
Bear strikes FSA.
The Eagle arms the FSA
WW3 not possible but not inconceivable
Bear has 2 Allies
Eagle has 28 allies.
The Dragon has no interest in the whole thing
Eagle will not stop until Bear is out financially and politically
High propensity of escalation soon
Probably Def Con 2.. lets say close to 5 min to midnight
But de-escalation thereafter
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Much Know wrote:quicksand wrote:Much Know wrote:Don't know why it seems this is a war against Putin's ego, the fellow seems isolated, China is not interested in this "war" yes he has nuclear weapons (tusiende hapo please for now), but everyone has different objectives and Putin is badly outnumbered (unless iran is an alley to speak of), and his economy is shrinking, China seem more concerned with their internal affairs after killing one child policy, they are definitely not interested, is Russia and Putin not more or less alone, outnumbered seriously? Putin is not foolish I beg to differ, Putin is quite a foolish, masochistic "karate guy" idiot if you have never followed him in the press, his fighter pilots have been making provoking moves this is nothing new in the press, the guy put genuine business men on the oil issue you make a fuss out of in in jail and f***ed up the oil economy there, he does everything in Russia, typical KGB matakafa masochistic shit, the guy held a FAKE election to alledgely handover power to a new president, the guy becomes "prime minister" then suddenly he is really in the same position he was, this is the kind of utoto than can only be supported by peeps with utoi, do you know Putin? Guy is an idiot bwana! Assad used chemical weapon's for heavens sake, who sides with such? Remember the US was with Assad till the chemical weapon's fiasco. LOL you sound like a CIA sympathizer
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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It all started with MH370...this stealth war business.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:tycho wrote:¿ wrote:tycho wrote:limanika wrote:Check your facts. World war only happened when there was attempt to defeat existing superpower and transition to new one- something only done by force That's what happened because world order is dependent on powers and the balance of power holding them together. When order is threatened then the involved powers will have to act, and war has been a favorite tool. But it's not the only tool, or even an effective tool. And the alignments are always fluid. To make matters worse globalization won't allow for violence. Think of terrorism as the new art of war in a global arena. It's a big threat to stability; in the long term it's bad business. And nation states can no longer afford long wars. Even the use of robots is now being resisted. Power is shifting, or has shifted drastically. The world is more interdependent but world order has not yet been threatened. The balance of power may change but the system remains the same. War can be used as a scapegoat for global economic woes but benefiting from the death and suffering of others is still an acceptable part of the system. What makes you say that world order isn't under threat? Britain and the permanent members of the UNSC are the largest arms exporters.They are also the largest economies. The members may change and power may shift, but it's just winners and losers in the same order. It's like keeping score on the scramble for Africa. World order seems to be more about ideas, relationships, demand, roles, technology and the like. What you're saying accounts for a part of the picture.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Dawnwoods wrote:They wants to perform Onychectomy to the Bear.
In Ukraine and Syria..
The Bear takes Crimea mainly bec of Sevestopol
Now, Kiev has no ultimate control of Donestk.
Bear likes warm naval water of Sevestopol
Enter Syria…
Pipeline needs to pass thru Aleppo from 4 mid east countries.
Mostly Sunni nations
This will cripple the Bear Completely
Bear depends on fossil fuel mostly
Bear is resistant and has a Base there.
Bear strikes FSA.
The Eagle arms the FSA
WW3 not possible but not inconceivable
Bear has 2 Allies
Eagle has 28 allies.
The Dragon has no interest in the whole thing
Eagle will not stop until Bear is out financially and politically
High propensity of escalation soon
Probably Def Con 2.. lets say close to 5 min to midnight
But de-escalation thereafter
The dragon has interests on the eagle approaching its islands. The eagle knows it's talons cannot grip opposite sides of the world efficiently at the same time.
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