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masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:Just heard something in the media that gave me an epiphany that kinda hit me like a train - the suspected mastermind of the shooting a one 'Abdelhamid Abaaoud' according to the father "was not a difficult child and became a good businessman. But suddenly, he left for Syria" How many times have we heard this? Over and over and over again!! Reminds me of Steven Weinberg's saying "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."... The lesson going forward... you should not bother with the people we know as being "bad"... the ones who disturb their parents or the ones who were difficult or the ones who were sleeping with girls/boys around or smoking (both big and small) and taking alcohol in rebellion while growing up or in their early adult life... KEEP AN EYE ON THE REALLY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GOOD ALL THEIR LIVES!! THOSE KESHA GOING PEOPLE, THOSE GOOD MUSLIMS THAT OBEY EVERYTHING... THOSE ARE THE FUTURE NUT CASES!! Religiosity isn't goodness. Obeying everything isn't necessarily being good. So the new Kenyan police force and morality police should be snooping on those who are 'good'. How interesting! I am yet to hear of a terrorist described by his folks or peers as being a problematic person! or a nut case... They all seem to have been "good" people. I think the formula to detecting should be "good" people who are kinda pissed by the things "bad" people are doing! So if it bothers you that people are going to rock concerts or some other kind of "debauchery".... YOU COULD BE A PRIME CANDIDATE! I think "bad" people love life too much to do such things... you will catch them being tenderprenuers and fish mongering but not killing themselves and others because of ideals. Do you notice that you're being pissed at the 'bad' things people are doing, and working very hard to create a rule of thumb for fishing the bad people out? You could be poisoning your mind right now . . . possibly! this thing could be recursive! Or simply erroneous. kwani I have stepped on toes?  I choose to go with recursive....  Sloppy reasoning can be a tad 'irritating' but of course you should be allowed your choices!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:Just heard something in the media that gave me an epiphany that kinda hit me like a train - the suspected mastermind of the shooting a one 'Abdelhamid Abaaoud' according to the father "was not a difficult child and became a good businessman. But suddenly, he left for Syria" How many times have we heard this? Over and over and over again!! Reminds me of Steven Weinberg's saying "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."... The lesson going forward... you should not bother with the people we know as being "bad"... the ones who disturb their parents or the ones who were difficult or the ones who were sleeping with girls/boys around or smoking (both big and small) and taking alcohol in rebellion while growing up or in their early adult life... KEEP AN EYE ON THE REALLY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GOOD ALL THEIR LIVES!! THOSE KESHA GOING PEOPLE, THOSE GOOD MUSLIMS THAT OBEY EVERYTHING... THOSE ARE THE FUTURE NUT CASES!! Religiosity isn't goodness. Obeying everything isn't necessarily being good. So the new Kenyan police force and morality police should be snooping on those who are 'good'. How interesting! I am yet to hear of a terrorist described by his folks or peers as being a problematic person! or a nut case... They all seem to have been "good" people. I think the formula to detecting should be "good" people who are kinda pissed by the things "bad" people are doing! So if it bothers you that people are going to rock concerts or some other kind of "debauchery".... YOU COULD BE A PRIME CANDIDATE! I think "bad" people love life too much to do such things... you will catch them being tenderprenuers and fish mongering but not killing themselves and others because of ideals. Do you notice that you're being pissed at the 'bad' things people are doing, and working very hard to create a rule of thumb for fishing the bad people out? You could be poisoning your mind right now . . . possibly! this thing could be recursive! Or simply erroneous. kwani I have stepped on toes? I choose to go with recursive.... Sloppy reasoning can be a tad 'irritating' but of course you should be allowed your choices! right!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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kumbe msako is not only limited to Kenya - the French are on a msako spree, and then there is the little question of how media freedom is defined and decided.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:kumbe msako is not only limited to Kenya - the French are on a msako spree, and then there is the little question of how media freedom is defined and decided. the biggest de-service we do to ourselves is COPY without CONTEXT! We never really ask ourselves... WHAT IS GOOD FOR US? Let's consider this... Is what is good for Netherlands AT THIS TIME good for Syria AT THIS TIME? I guess the last 5 years have shown us NO! Right? So the biggest issue I always have with liberals is that when pushing for a change they may say... "Even [INSERT WESTERN COUNTRY HERE] is doing it", how many times have you met a person who travelled to some western country coming back and lecturing YOU on some evil in your country? We have our very own version here - a guy called @alma is an example.... the discourse is always.. Kenya.. Blah... Kenyans Blah e.t.c. The US does Y.... In France they do X! Perhaps the bigger question should be... WHAT MAKES SENSE TO US? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:We miss the secular Iraq. the secular Middle East was 'working'.... all these 'democracy' killed it! Israel will go nutty... the arabs will go nutty... the russians will go nutty, the europeans will go nutty and if you put trump in there - the americans as well and when everyone is nuts... WELL IT WILL NOT BE PRETTY! The good Pope calls it WWIII. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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murchr wrote:¿ wrote:Swenani wrote:This is just history repeating itself,No need to worry relax and masturbate in peace, it will come to pass.
What is the difference between the christian people's crusade and the radicalized Islamist jihadist? The difference is that both were radicalized by religion
Christianity is 2000 years old while Islam is 1400 years.The radicalized Jihadist are doing what the radicalized crusaders did 1000 years ago.
In 1000 years to come,there will be a radicalized version of Hamburglar who will be killing all the Christians, Jews, Muslims in the name of atheism!
Like Tycho said, ISIS has everything to do with Islam just like Peoples crusades had everything to do with Christianity but NOT the FAITH of Islam or Christianity!
Both the Jihadist and the crusaders are/were fighting the "Holy" war of intolerance! Were the crusades based on scripture or are you mixing issues? How Islamic is Islamic State group? Not very, experts sayQuote:Part of the problem in countering the group's ideology is that moderate clerics have struggled to come up with a cohesive, modern interpretation, especially of the Quranic verses connected to Muhammad's wars with his enemies.
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And while moderate clerics counter the Islamic State group's interpretation point-by-point, at times they accept the same tenets.
Sheikh Ahmed el-Tayeb — the grand imam of Egypt's Al-Azhar, one of Sunni Islam's most prestigious seats of learning — denounced the burning of the Jordanian pilot as a violation of Islam. But then he called for the perpetrators to be subjected to the same punishment that IS prescribes for those who "wage war on Islam" — crucifixion, death or the amputation of hands and legs. 'Moderate' clerics seeking 'modern interpretations' still accept crucifixion, executions and amputations to be Islamic. Authority, interpretation and application of Islamic teachings is the issue. Muslims may choose to live their lives how they wish but it is Islam that defines a muslim not the other way around. It will become clear that no one can change Islam without undermining it. Watch what happens as the clerics cherry pick what fits into the 'modern interpretation' of Islam. What would you say about the wars led by King David, Deborah and Barak? Crusades were sanctioned by the Catholic church The wars were temporary. The crusades were unbiblical. That is not the case with Islam. According to Islam,Muhammad is a good example and his words and actions are meant to be a guidance for mankind till the return of Allah when the world will be Islamic.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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masukuma wrote:Just heard something in the media that gave me an epiphany that kinda hit me like a train - the suspected mastermind of the shooting a one 'Abdelhamid Abaaoud' according to the father "was not a difficult child and became a good businessman. But suddenly, he left for Syria" How many times have we heard this? Over and over and over again!! Reminds me of Steven Weinberg's saying "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."... The lesson going forward... you should not bother with the people we know as being "bad"... the ones who disturb their parents or the ones who were difficult or the ones who were sleeping with girls/boys around or smoking (both big and small) and taking alcohol in rebellion while growing up or in their early adult life... KEEP AN EYE ON THE REALLY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GOOD ALL THEIR LIVES!! THOSE KESHA GOING PEOPLE, THOSE GOOD MUSLIMS THAT OBEY EVERYTHING... THOSE ARE THE FUTURE NUT CASES!! I guess the greedy and power hungry are excused.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2015 Posts: 604
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:We miss the secular Iraq. the secular Middle East was 'working'.... all these 'democracy' killed it! Israel will go nutty... the arabs will go nutty... the russians will go nutty, the europeans will go nutty and if you put trump in there - the americans as well and when everyone is nuts... WELL IT WILL NOT BE PRETTY! The good Pope calls it WWIII.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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¿ wrote:masukuma wrote:Just heard something in the media that gave me an epiphany that kinda hit me like a train - the suspected mastermind of the shooting a one 'Abdelhamid Abaaoud' according to the father "was not a difficult child and became a good businessman. But suddenly, he left for Syria" How many times have we heard this? Over and over and over again!! Reminds me of Steven Weinberg's saying "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."... The lesson going forward... you should not bother with the people we know as being "bad"... the ones who disturb their parents or the ones who were difficult or the ones who were sleeping with girls/boys around or smoking (both big and small) and taking alcohol in rebellion while growing up or in their early adult life... KEEP AN EYE ON THE REALLY RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN GOOD ALL THEIR LIVES!! THOSE KESHA GOING PEOPLE, THOSE GOOD MUSLIMS THAT OBEY EVERYTHING... THOSE ARE THE FUTURE NUT CASES!! I guess the greedy and power hungry are excused. Those are the ones that stand to benefit... they are the dog that is wagging the tail. The tail is the bunch of good people who quickly go to the darkside All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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