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Coffee mafia rips off Kenya farmers
mlennyma
#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:04:11 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago.


blind loyalty really hurts especially matters economics. Other areas keep playing the "marginalized" card but I don't know if they'd have been any better if they had as many presidents from their region given the sycophantic support all politicians seem to have.If farmers got fair returns for coffee, tea and other crops across the country that can have a very good trickle down effect on the economy and shore up the Kenya shilling when the same is exported. It can also help farmers increase their yield without govt subsidies/bailouts every now and then.

the political class is well aware how hard it is to manipulate a rich person so the game will remain keep them as poor as possible
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whiteowl
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:19:55 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
My only surprise is this,central kenya is the main coffee basket,this area has produced presidents since independence and none of them has seen this,i can only blame the farmers for keeping quiet and maintaining blind tribal loyalty to leaders whose interests are very different from their own people,given that farmers form a solid voting block if they one time threatened to vote outside their normal block because of this exploitation somebody could have heard them long time ago.


blind loyalty really hurts especially matters economics. Other areas keep playing the "marginalized" card but I don't know if they'd have been any better if they had as many presidents from their region given the sycophantic support all politicians seem to have.If farmers got fair returns for coffee, tea and other crops across the country that can have a very good trickle down effect on the economy and shore up the Kenya shilling when the same is exported. It can also help farmers increase their yield without govt subsidies/bailouts every now and then.

the political class is well aware how hard it is to manipulate a rich person so the game will remain keep them as poor as possible


they'd also have no "agenda" to campaign on.Its always "if you elect me,I will [insert something that hasn't been done since independence]. From the look of things, the Nyeri governor seems to be a lone ranger in this fight but I wish him all the best.I wish he had more support/pressure not from fellow politicians but from the farmers who stand to benefit the most.
Swenani
#13 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 7:18:29 AM
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How possible is this?

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Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.

The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Much Know
#14 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 8:08:52 AM
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Swenani wrote:
How possible is this?

Quote:
Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.

The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal.

My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"...
Ras Kienyeji Man
enyands
#15 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 10:19:38 AM
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Much Know wrote:
Swenani wrote:
How possible is this?

Quote:
Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.

The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal.

My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"...



Shafting continues. ..
mlennyma
#16 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 11:00:26 AM
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enyands wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Swenani wrote:
How possible is this?

Quote:
Africa’s largest coffee mill has been stolen from the Nairobi premises of the Kenya Planters Cooperative Union.

The mill, which occupied five floors and was insured for Sh805 million, is believed to have been cut up by vandals and sold off as scrap metal.

My theory is if all the workers (or at least a large percentage starting from top) collude to steal coffee from the farmer they will steal anything, and therefore become the "vandals" it can happen very quietly, the "hold up" of the mwananchi by this vandals can take even years, not even a single employee will report to the police, what for? He will be found in a ngong forest, with bullet holes, and nothing stolen, mulika mwizi intact, 2k in the pocket, seiko 5 kwa mkono, and his probox parked somewhere e.t.c many garment departments have been operating like that, if you want a 'hitman' ask someone in lands...as the vitimbi guy's would say, they will deal with you perpendicularly, if you release any details about that "missing file"...



Shafting continues. ..

Not yet independence
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
limanika
#17 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 11:46:30 AM
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Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere
mlennyma
#18 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 11:53:48 AM
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limanika wrote:
Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere

One day,one time a true leader will come,and change will reign. at the moment none.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
matatuman
#19 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 12:29:20 PM
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limanika wrote:
Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere


Pipe dream.
majimaji
#20 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2015 1:06:53 PM
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matatuman wrote:
limanika wrote:
Way forward out of coffee madness is county govts to take charge. Mill, process, package and export finished product. The county which pioneers this will become very rich. But if all the mca do is foreign trips and begging national govtfor iincreased funding, thye won't go anywhere


Pipe dream.


The Govt is part of the problem
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