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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:The Good Lord Again was in Paris,France doing some cleanup.He was at a Paris concert hall called Le Bataclan.Where a DEATH Metal group called Eagles of Death Metal was playing.Well imagine dieing while worshiping the devil? Funny enough the bands Members escaped.Well God is merciful still in his anger.But never the less cleanup had to be done. Now is the time to call the stinky hog alphdoti all the names he rightfully deserves. Everytime he tries to paint his religion in bright colours his friends come and correctly mess him up big time and raise a big stink in the name of his religion. @Anti_Burglar, you need to read a little bit wider. Stop listening to your drinking mates and start using your God given brain and education to look at things on a wider perspective. You will know. I can give you a suggestion, go to YouTube and search "Origin of ISIS". Whatever. Are you like a muslim prefect to watch and note down who follows islam incorrectly? If you are not, then bug off and watch your friends implement it. They are deluded enough to do what you just say. @Anti_Burglar I'm not anybody's prefect, they can choose to go against what they cheat others like you that they follow. But I'm here to show those who don't see like you that they don't follow Islam. Whether you choose to ignore that knowledge or not is still your choice. Even Hitler went against teachings of Christianity, and did what he did, but did that make him right? On the same note, you could use your brain and know that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, they are not following Islam, even though they use the name of Islam to achieve their business. All I am doing condemn their dirty business! You understand? Tell yourself a lie enough times and it appears to you like truth. True, we can't shy away from the fact that ISIS has come out and taken claim of this attack. Yes, they have said Islamist extremists have done this act. But @anti_burglar and @Matoe, get this correctly: INCORRECT!!! INCORRECT!!!You can't attach yourself to a religion when you don't follow the laws of that religion. These so called Islamist extremists loose the right to be part of Islam the moment they go against the "book they claim to follow". The moment they promoted terror, violence, murder etc they lost the right to be part of any religion. THEY ARE JUST TERRORISTS!! NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS, THEY ARE JUST TERRORISTS!Millions and millions of Muslims right now are embarrassed and ashamed of this. They are following and practicing their religion in the right ways and we don't apologize for following our religion. Because these millions and million Muslims right now are horrified and disgusted at these attacks! Even Hitler did murder in the name of religion but we cannot blame those who call themselves for his action So now you are allah to say so and so have lost their 'right' to islam? Your delusions might be less dangerous than killing someone. Continue convincing yourself of those lies. It's your life. @anti_burglar, let me give you another a silly analogy for you. Let us say football fan went to a stadium and I blew it up and he kills people in an act of terrorism and he release the statement saying "I was doing it for my love of my team xyz because gods told me to". Do you think everybody would get together and blame football collectively saying "football you are terrorist organization?" No of course. They would blame the crazy, lunatic fan. He would be the monster. The blood would be on his hands. And that is not too different from what you are advocating. Why waste time blaming the whole faith when you should be blaming the real hooligans? There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world right now, who are standing collectively with everyone else. We need the world to unite, come together and stand up against the people who are actually doing the mess and claim they are doing it for their faith. We know it is not part of the religion. It is not what the religion preaches.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Alphdoti,
For silly analogies:
1. Has the football club has some teachings, literature and tutors about violence? Check. 2. Does the football club have a history of its fans killing other people, bombing crowded places? Check. 3. Are individuals in different parts of the world and who are fans of this football club acting independently of each other in acts of killing people? Check.
Then this football club is a terrorist football club. Simple. This football club is islam. Perhaps you want to bring a bit more clever analogies next time?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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*****Chewing gum as I walk away******* "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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by the time you're all done quoting scriptures and presenting arguments and counter arguments, we'll all be dead.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2010 Posts: 495 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@anti_burglar, let me give you another a silly analogy for you. Let us say football fan went to a stadium and I blew it up and he kills people in an act of terrorism and he release the statement saying "I was doing it for my love of my team xyz because gods told me to". Do you think everybody would get together and blame football collectively saying "football you are terrorist organization?"
No of course. They would blame the crazy, lunatic fan. He would be the monster. The blood would be on his hands.
And that is not too different from what you are advocating. Why waste time blaming the whole faith when you should be blaming the real hooligans?
There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world right now, who are standing collectively with everyone else. We need the world to unite, come together and stand up against the people who are actually doing the mess and claim they are doing it for their faith. We know it is not part of the religion. It is not what the religion preaches. Exactly! Quote:I want to thank well-meaning non-Muslims who, in the wake of these attacks, have emphasised that they have been carried out by a small, twisted minority. A terrorist's goal is to sow hatred and discord, and by not giving in, you are defeating their plans. But I want to say that as a Muslim, I wish that we weren't so quick to emphasise that this has nothing to do with us. While I personally have never killed anyone and none of my friends and family have ever resorted to violence, radicalism has everything to do with Islam. And the failure to address that out of a well-intentioned commitment to tolerance is making the problem worse. ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and it is an Islamic problem. Let me say it again to be perfectly clear. ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and they are a cancer at the heart of Islam. And the problem will not go away until Muslims confront that. ISIS attackers scream 'Allah hu'akbar' during their attacks. ISIS recruits cite Qur'anic verses as justification for the rape and enslavement of women. ISIS soldiers kill archaeologists, gay men and women, and people who refuse to convert to Islam because they are blasphemers. There are no Christians in ISIS. There are no Buddhists, Jews, Pagans, Taoists, Houngans, Catholics, Wiccans, Hindus or even Scientologists in ISIS. ISIS is a Muslim organisation and they kill in the name of Islam. So don't say that ISIS aren't 'true Muslims' or that they are 'not really Muslims'. Like any large organisation, ISIS exists in a spectrum. You have the aimless, restless teenager who never amounted to anything in his life and traveled to Syria because he can't find a job and doesn't know if the Qur'an is to be read from left to right or right to left. But you also have pious professionals, businessmen, and academics who read their Qur'an cover to cover, pray every day, were seduced into radicalism, and truly believe that the Islamic State's goal of conquest is a noble one. The so-called 'Caliph' Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi has a doctorate in Islamic studies. So if you feel that Muslims are being oppressed or killed in Muslim countries, I expect you to also be just as outraged by ISIS. Because they have killed more Muslims in Iraq, Syria and Jordan than the entire US army. They have done more damage to the name and reputation of Islam than any Western nation. ISIS is Islam's biggest enemy, not the US, not Israel or France or Germany or the Russians. We have to own the problem. We have to admit that this is a religious problem, and we need to renew our commitment to a secular country which treats all religions equally. I have believed in the importance of secularism all my life, and with every day that passes that belief grows stronger. Religion is no way to govern a nation. Not any religion, and not any nation. ISIS is not America's problem, nor the British, nor the French. ISIS is not Syria or Iraq's problem. ISIS is a problem for Muslims. And if you can't admit that, you're not really a good Muslim either. Source: https://m.facebook.com/s.../posts/10153827144425955Sent from my Black Nokia 3310
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Ash Ock wrote:[quote=AlphDoti]@anti_burglar, let me give you another a silly analogy for you. Let us say football fan went to a stadium and I blew it up and he kills people in an act of terrorism and he release the statement saying "I was doing it for my love of my team xyz because gods told me to". Do you think everybody would get together and blame football collectively saying "football you are terrorist organization?"
No of course. They would blame the crazy, lunatic fan. He would be the monster. The blood would be on his hands.
And that is not too different from what you are advocating. Why waste time blaming the whole faith when you should be blaming the real hooligans?
There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world right now, who are standing collectively with everyone else. We need the world to unite, come together and stand up against the people who are actually doing the mess and claim they are doing it for their faith. We know it is not part of the religion. It is not what the religion preaches. Exactly! Quote:I want to thank well-meaning non-Muslims who, in the wake of these attacks, have emphasised that they have been carried out by a small, twisted minority. A terrorist's goal is to sow hatred and discord, and by not giving in, you are defeating their plans. But I want to say that as a Muslim, I wish that we weren't so quick to emphasise that this has nothing to do with us. While I personally have never killed anyone and none of my friends and family have ever resorted to violence, radicalism has everything to do with Islam. And the failure to address that out of a well-intentioned commitment to tolerance is making the problem worse. ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and it is an Islamic problem. Let me say it again to be perfectly clear. ISIS is a Muslim organisation, and they are a cancer at the heart of Islam. And the problem will not go away until Muslims confront that. ISIS attackers scream 'Allah hu'akbar' during their attacks. ISIS recruits cite Qur'anic verses as justification for the rape and enslavement of women. ISIS soldiers kill archaeologists, gay men and women, and people who refuse to convert to Islam because they are blasphemers. There are no Christians in ISIS. There are no Buddhists, Jews, Pagans, Taoists, Houngans, Catholics, Wiccans, Hindus or even Scientologists in ISIS. ISIS is a Muslim organisation and they kill in the name of Islam. So don't say that ISIS aren't 'true Muslims' or that they are 'not really Muslims'. Like any large organisation, ISIS exists in a spectrum. You have the aimless, restless teenager who never amounted to anything in his life and traveled to Syria because he can't find a job and doesn't know if the Qur'an is to be read from left to right or right to left. But you also have pious professionals, businessmen, and academics who read their Qur'an cover to cover, pray every day, were seduced into radicalism, and truly believe that the Islamic State's goal of conquest is a noble one. The so-called 'Caliph' Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi has a doctorate in Islamic studies. So if you feel that Muslims are being oppressed or killed in Muslim countries, I expect you to also be just as outraged by ISIS. Because they have killed more Muslims in Iraq, Syria and Jordan than the entire US army. They have done more damage to the name and reputation of Islam than any Western nation. ISIS is Islam's biggest enemy, not the US, not Israel or France or Germany or the Russians. We have to own the problem. We have to admit that this is a religious problem, and we need to renew our commitment to a secular country which treats all religions equally. I have believed in the importance of secularism all my life, and with every day that passes that belief grows stronger. Religion is no way to govern a nation. Not any religion, and not any nation. ISIS is not America's problem, nor the British, nor the French. ISIS is not Syria or Iraq's problem. ISIS is a problem for Muslims. And if you can't admit that, you're not really a good Muslim either. Source: https://m.facebook.com/s...posts/10153827144425955[/quote]
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Impunity wrote:I ask again " WHY IS POPE CALLING THIS WORLD WAR III"? He did? Has the terrorist excommunicator confirmed? What are the marks of previous world wars? Have they been met now? To me, we are in world war 3. More than 60 countries united in arms against the Caliphate! What more does one need to be in a world war? Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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whiteowl wrote:by the time you're all done quoting scriptures and presenting arguments and counter arguments, we'll all be dead. When Alphdoti presents his coloured and long winding aimless arguments, where are you? When his opposition surfaces akina murchr start chewing cud like goats of Baringo and walk away to the shade and do nothing. Stand up against evil and be counted.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:Go to school to get education but MOST importantly travel the world to be exposed and informed....ni hayo tu! wazuaadmin....wapi like button? The moment you start travelling and not for a day or 2 but rather for longer periods of time is the moment you really start killing your prejudice  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:Swenani wrote:Go to school to get education but MOST importantly travel the world to be exposed and informed....ni hayo tu! wazuaadmin....wapi like button? The moment you start travelling and not for a day or 2 but rather for longer periods of time is the moment you really start killing your prejudice  1.4 billion people in China are non believers and they dont kill one another in the name of religion. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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