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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
VituVingiSana
#1231 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 3:40:56 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
In the short term, I think we are headed for a tug of war between the cbk and the banks. The sudden(manipulated) drop in the tbills and bonds is meant to cushion the government from the coming 2016 financial/debt storm.

By affording the government some breathing space, treasury is able to source for cheap debt repayments funds in the domestic front hence the latest directive by cbk for banks to lower interest rates.

Problem is with the economy in bad shape, the premium(k)-inclusive of credit risk-charged by banks over and above the KBRR is more likely to increase than reduce. By directing the banks to lower interest rates, the cbk is forcing them to expand their loan books and give out riskier credit with no corresponding return. This will in turn exercebate their NPL's, LLP's and various capital ratios. It will be foolhardy of them to comply.

Knowing the drop in rates is temporary I don't expect banks to budge on interest rates. The cbk might be forced onto more desperate measures to reign in the banks.

This should take a while to resolve itself and both can't have their way.

Very perceptive and the same discussion I was having yesterday. The banks have increased their "K" to catch up to the high T-Bill rates and are unlikely to reduce the "K" any time soon.
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mnandii
#1232 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 6:50:58 PM
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mnandii wrote:


Safaricom Share Price.

Since Safaricom hit a high of 17.90 on 6th May, 2015, it fell in a leading diagonal structure making wave 'A'. We are currently in a wave 'B' correction which should end at about the 16/- level. Thereafter expect Safcom to drop below 10/-.


Safaricom finally hit the 16/- level. I expect from here a massive sell-off. Bulls have chance only if the stock rises above 17.90/-.
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mlennyma
#1233 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 8:09:41 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Safaricom Share Price.

Since Safaricom hit a high of 17.90 on 6th May, 2015, it fell in a leading diagonal structure making wave 'A'. We are currently in a wave 'B' correction which should end at about the 16/- level. Thereafter expect Safcom to drop below 10/-.


Safaricom finally hit the 16/- level. I expect from here a massive sell-off. Bulls have chance only if the stock rises above 17.90/-.

This is the prophecy which will determine whether I will believe in waves or I will ignore them forever
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snipermnoma
#1234 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:14:24 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:


Safaricom Share Price.

Since Safaricom hit a high of 17.90 on 6th May, 2015, it fell in a leading diagonal structure making wave 'A'. We are currently in a wave 'B' correction which should end at about the 16/- level. Thereafter expect Safcom to drop below 10/-.


Safaricom finally hit the 16/- level. I expect from here a massive sell-off. Bulls have chance only if the stock rises above 17.90/-.


mnandii wrote:
As far as most wazuans can remember I have maintained that the KES should strengthen against the USD in the foreseable future. In fact my near term target is 82 against the USD as per chart below:



It is good that the daily chart of the pair agrees with this analysis as below:



This chart shows that the pair is falling impulsively (i.e KES is strengthening against the USD). In the interim I expect wave [ iv ] to complete at about 103.50s before a resumption of the fall towards and slightly below 100.

This outlook can only be set aside if the pair manages to rise above 106.80 level.


For me these two go hand in hand. If interest rates rise (or if CB borrows externally aka syndicated loan) then this all lines up.
hisah
#1235 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 11:00:16 PM
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Crude oil sharp plunge ahead as $40 handle snaps on selling pressure!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
whiteowl
#1236 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 4:31:35 AM
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hisah wrote:
Crude oil sharp plunge ahead as $40 handle snaps on selling pressure!


and lots of "strong sell" recos
muandiwambeu
#1237 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 8:52:39 AM
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And is everyone else strongly selling to break the sell record? Or am selling under the strong selling presure.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
maka
#1238 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 11:37:19 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
In the short term, I think we are headed for a tug of war between the cbk and the banks. The sudden(manipulated) drop in the tbills and bonds is meant to cushion the government from the coming 2016 financial/debt storm.

By affording the government some breathing space, treasury is able to source for cheap debt repayments funds in the domestic front hence the latest directive by cbk for banks to lower interest rates.

Problem is with the economy in bad shape, the premium(k)-inclusive of credit risk-charged by banks over and above the KBRR is more likely to increase than reduce. By directing the banks to lower interest rates, the cbk is forcing them to expand their loan books and give out riskier credit with no corresponding return. This will in turn exercebate their NPL's, LLP's and various capital ratios. It will be foolhardy of them to comply.

Knowing the drop in rates is temporary I don't expect banks to budge on interest rates. The cbk might be forced onto more desperate measures to reign in the banks.

This should take a while to resolve itself and both can't have their way.

Very perceptive and the same discussion I was having yesterday. The banks have increased their "K" to catch up to the high T-Bill rates and are unlikely to reduce the "K" any time soon.


@Loach + VVS...what can CBK do about it?
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mibbz
#1239 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 2:44:20 PM
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Interesting to note 6 counters have over 80% selling by foreigners (DTK, EAGD,Kengen,KK,KPLC,KQ) while only two have over 80% buying (Olympia, Crown Berger) . Most of the buying is local,guess we have more faith in our markets.
streetwise
#1240 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 3:35:26 PM
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