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Waiguru’s buys ball pens at Sh8,700 each!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hardwood
#161 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:09:07 PM
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Duale now says its the PS Mangiti that should go not the CS waigooro. I agree with Duale 100 percent.

www.the-star.co.ke/news/...ainst-waiguru-sack-calls
hardwood
#162 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:22:52 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Duale now says its the PS Mangiti that should go not the CS waigooro. I agree with Duale 100 percent.

www.the-star.co.ke/news/...ainst-waiguru-sack-calls


Duale also said that the opposition is behind waigooroo's woes. Which is very true. We should all remember that waigooroo has sued baba and baba is trying to use all means including extra judicial ones to deal with his accuser. If he is man enough, he should face waigooroo in court, not using his moles in govt, sycophants, and online rairabots to deal with her.

#WaiguruKaaNgumu
hardwood
#163 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:38:26 PM
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There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba
hardwood
#164 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:20:48 PM
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#WeLoveYouWaigooroo
#KaaNgumu
#MakeleleYaChuraHaizuiiNgombeKunyuaMaji
#37thBlogger
dunkang
#165 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:31:20 PM
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hardwood wrote:
There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba

If the best that Jubilee could hire is people like you, they don't deserve to be in power even tomorrow.

Who is Konchella??? I pity Uhuru if you work for him.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

hardwood
#166 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:40:02 PM
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C&P

Firing Waiguru will not solve anything. the thieves will remain behind and steal again when the opportunity arises. the only and only painful way is to fire all accounting officers in all ministries inclusive of all PS, heads of procurement and contract handlers. the law should also be changed to allow a Cabinet secretary to append his or her signature on the final payment request authorization document so that there is no excuse from any ministry if money is paid out without CS being aware. that is the way and the only way out no other way. even tinga has no solution.
hardwood
#167 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:47:06 PM
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dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba

If the best that Jubilee could hire is people like you, they don't deserve to be in power even tomorrow.

Who is Konchella??? I pity Uhuru if you work for him.


Yaani you dont even know who Konchella is? Why are you commenting on matters that you dont understand?
hardwood
#168 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:11:56 PM
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Nyooomba...yaani munapigwa kama mumelala. As the saying goes, if my brother (oops sister waigooroo) is in trouble, so am I.
hardwood
#169 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:26:38 PM
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During nusu mkate govt, Orengo as lands minister allocated half of lamu county (500,000 acres) to fishy characters, Nyong'o as health minister paid miĺlions to ghost 'Clinix' and the lakesiders said he had done nothing wrong. Nyooomba, why are you cheering when your daughter is being crucified, because her juniors (some from the lake) ate without her knowledge? Muangalie the bigger piksha, especially @alma. Why isnt anyone talking about the 100k wheelbarrows? Tafakari hayo.
Swenani
#170 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:42:14 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I will leave this one here as my last contribution on this thread for hardwood







Doesn't the above post indicate who signed the contract to perform?


Swenani...ala? Yaani you have no idea of who hires and fires in govt?? Where are you? There exists a Public Service Commission...go back to the Katiba and read their mandate


Murchr,I didnt want to further engage on this issue, but I hope this isgoing to be my last commentsmile smile

Is Itumbi a civil servant? where was his position advertised and who hired him? Yes, he was hired to work for statehouse your tax money pays him

I'm telling you for a fact that the devolution ministry appointed Samuel and Hassan Noor to their current positions. Wasn't he the former PC ama those are not civil servants?

Why didn't the HoD and Heads of Sagas sign performance contract with PSC who hired them?

I'm not saying that Waiguru has stolen,but she needs to be held responsible for what is happening in her ministry since she was appointed to head that government function.Authority comes with responsibility.

If we want the accounting officer(PS) or tender committee to be responsible for the ministry,then let us agree that its the tender committee which should lead and represent the devolution ministry.

I think based on your argument, there is no one who is going to be held responsible in the government and private sector.

The accountant doesn't procure things, they only process payment and post transactions based on the invoices and requests they receive,the tender committee doesn't put in a request for procurement nor do they submit quotations,they only review quotations and make recommendations based on the available quotations,the procurement department only procures what the tender committee approves they only review tenders based on request submitted by the ministry, the cashier makes payments based on petty cash approvals, the principal Secretary doesn't procure things in the ministry. It is "Wanjiku" who needs to be blamed because if they would not ask for service delivery and suppliers didn't overquote misuse of public funds would not take place.Jail the suppliers and the citizens.

ION,David Moyes and Rogers were fired for their teams poor performance yet they do not play and score goals.Mourinho is being put on the spotlight yet he doesnt play.

Even our own Ole Lenku was fired for insecurity yet he was was supposed to lead on policy direction & implementation,he was not responsible and accountable for policing our streets,neighborhoods and borders...But he was held responsible and accountableand sacrificed for the mistakes Ochieng did in Mandera(I bet you do not know Ochieng in Mandera,He is the police man based in Mandera)...Tafakari hayo

Surely, wasn't Ole lenku sacked because of poor implementation of policy? Did you hear him being investigated on the bunduki saga that got Mutea Iringo out of OP? Toa goggles



More examples.,...It was Sholei with the acquisition of CJ's house and judges offices, Ndemo - Konza land saga and the list goes on


Does the chief registrar and PS sit in the procurement ctender committees?


To help you,these are the members of the tender committee when Sholei was the chief registrar.

1 Mr. Francis Kakai Kissinger Deputy Chief Registrar Chairman
2 Mr. David Rapando Deputy Chief Finance Officer
Deputy
Chairman
3 Mr. Wycliffe Wanga Obunde Accounts Controller Member
4 Mr. Nicholas Mbemba Executive Officer Member
5 Mr.Nicholas Okemwa Legal Officer Member
6
Mr. Fredrick Momanyi
Nyamori
Executive Assistant Member
8 Mr. Mutugi Mugambi
Supply Chain Management
Officer
Member
9 Mr. Quentine M.Mwiti Accountant 1 Member
7 Mr. Patrick Meyo Deputy Director , Supply
Chain Management Officer
Member.


As per the public procurement and disposal Act,For a person to be appointed to the tender committee(tender committees are for procurement of over 500K),they should be heads of departments(cabinet secretary appointees).




And its shollei and members of tender committe who were sent home and prosecuted, not mutunga.


Let me waster my 2 minutes to respond to you.

I'm not saying that Uhuru(Mutunga) should step aside, I'm saying that Waiguru(sholei) to step aside
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
hardwood
#171 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:47:27 PM
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Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I will leave this one here as my last contribution on this thread for hardwood







Doesn't the above post indicate who signed the contract to perform?


Swenani...ala? Yaani you have no idea of who hires and fires in govt?? Where are you? There exists a Public Service Commission...go back to the Katiba and read their mandate


Murchr,I didnt want to further engage on this issue, but I hope this isgoing to be my last commentsmile smile

Is Itumbi a civil servant? where was his position advertised and who hired him? Yes, he was hired to work for statehouse your tax money pays him

I'm telling you for a fact that the devolution ministry appointed Samuel and Hassan Noor to their current positions. Wasn't he the former PC ama those are not civil servants?

Why didn't the HoD and Heads of Sagas sign performance contract with PSC who hired them?

I'm not saying that Waiguru has stolen,but she needs to be held responsible for what is happening in her ministry since she was appointed to head that government function.Authority comes with responsibility.

If we want the accounting officer(PS) or tender committee to be responsible for the ministry,then let us agree that its the tender committee which should lead and represent the devolution ministry.

I think based on your argument, there is no one who is going to be held responsible in the government and private sector.

The accountant doesn't procure things, they only process payment and post transactions based on the invoices and requests they receive,the tender committee doesn't put in a request for procurement nor do they submit quotations,they only review quotations and make recommendations based on the available quotations,the procurement department only procures what the tender committee approves they only review tenders based on request submitted by the ministry, the cashier makes payments based on petty cash approvals, the principal Secretary doesn't procure things in the ministry. It is "Wanjiku" who needs to be blamed because if they would not ask for service delivery and suppliers didn't overquote misuse of public funds would not take place.Jail the suppliers and the citizens.

ION,David Moyes and Rogers were fired for their teams poor performance yet they do not play and score goals.Mourinho is being put on the spotlight yet he doesnt play.

Even our own Ole Lenku was fired for insecurity yet he was was supposed to lead on policy direction & implementation,he was not responsible and accountable for policing our streets,neighborhoods and borders...But he was held responsible and accountableand sacrificed for the mistakes Ochieng did in Mandera(I bet you do not know Ochieng in Mandera,He is the police man based in Mandera)...Tafakari hayo

Surely, wasn't Ole lenku sacked because of poor implementation of policy? Did you hear him being investigated on the bunduki saga that got Mutea Iringo out of OP? Toa goggles



More examples.,...It was Sholei with the acquisition of CJ's house and judges offices, Ndemo - Konza land saga and the list goes on


Does the chief registrar and PS sit in the procurement ctender committees?


To help you,these are the members of the tender committee when Sholei was the chief registrar.

1 Mr. Francis Kakai Kissinger Deputy Chief Registrar Chairman
2 Mr. David Rapando Deputy Chief Finance Officer
Deputy
Chairman
3 Mr. Wycliffe Wanga Obunde Accounts Controller Member
4 Mr. Nicholas Mbemba Executive Officer Member
5 Mr.Nicholas Okemwa Legal Officer Member
6
Mr. Fredrick Momanyi
Nyamori
Executive Assistant Member
8 Mr. Mutugi Mugambi
Supply Chain Management
Officer
Member
9 Mr. Quentine M.Mwiti Accountant 1 Member
7 Mr. Patrick Meyo Deputy Director , Supply
Chain Management Officer
Member.


As per the public procurement and disposal Act,For a person to be appointed to the tender committee(tender committees are for procurement of over 500K),they should be heads of departments(cabinet secretary appointees).




And its shollei and members of tender committe who were sent home and prosecuted, not mutunga.


Let me waster my 2 minutes to respond to you.

I'm not saying that Uhuru(Mutunga) should step aside, I'm saying that Waiguru(sholei) to step aside


And I am saying that it is PS Mangiti (planning) and PS Konchella (devolution), as accounting officers, who should step aside. Not Madame Waigooroo.
murchr
#172 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:18:10 PM
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Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I will leave this one here as my last contribution on this thread for hardwood







Doesn't the above post indicate who signed the contract to perform?


Swenani...ala? Yaani you have no idea of who hires and fires in govt?? Where are you? There exists a Public Service Commission...go back to the Katiba and read their mandate


Murchr,I didnt want to further engage on this issue, but I hope this isgoing to be my last commentsmile smile

Is Itumbi a civil servant? where was his position advertised and who hired him? Yes, he was hired to work for statehouse your tax money pays him

I'm telling you for a fact that the devolution ministry appointed Samuel and Hassan Noor to their current positions. Wasn't he the former PC ama those are not civil servants?

Why didn't the HoD and Heads of Sagas sign performance contract with PSC who hired them?

I'm not saying that Waiguru has stolen,but she needs to be held responsible for what is happening in her ministry since she was appointed to head that government function.Authority comes with responsibility.

If we want the accounting officer(PS) or tender committee to be responsible for the ministry,then let us agree that its the tender committee which should lead and represent the devolution ministry.

I think based on your argument, there is no one who is going to be held responsible in the government and private sector.

The accountant doesn't procure things, they only process payment and post transactions based on the invoices and requests they receive,the tender committee doesn't put in a request for procurement nor do they submit quotations,they only review quotations and make recommendations based on the available quotations,the procurement department only procures what the tender committee approves they only review tenders based on request submitted by the ministry, the cashier makes payments based on petty cash approvals, the principal Secretary doesn't procure things in the ministry. It is "Wanjiku" who needs to be blamed because if they would not ask for service delivery and suppliers didn't overquote misuse of public funds would not take place.Jail the suppliers and the citizens.

ION,David Moyes and Rogers were fired for their teams poor performance yet they do not play and score goals.Mourinho is being put on the spotlight yet he doesnt play.

Even our own Ole Lenku was fired for insecurity yet he was was supposed to lead on policy direction & implementation,he was not responsible and accountable for policing our streets,neighborhoods and borders...But he was held responsible and accountableand sacrificed for the mistakes Ochieng did in Mandera(I bet you do not know Ochieng in Mandera,He is the police man based in Mandera)...Tafakari hayo

Surely, wasn't Ole lenku sacked because of poor implementation of policy? Did you hear him being investigated on the bunduki saga that got Mutea Iringo out of OP? Toa goggles



More examples.,...It was Sholei with the acquisition of CJ's house and judges offices, Ndemo - Konza land saga and the list goes on


Does the chief registrar and PS sit in the procurement ctender committees?


To help you,these are the members of the tender committee when Sholei was the chief registrar.

1 Mr. Francis Kakai Kissinger Deputy Chief Registrar Chairman
2 Mr. David Rapando Deputy Chief Finance Officer
Deputy
Chairman
3 Mr. Wycliffe Wanga Obunde Accounts Controller Member
4 Mr. Nicholas Mbemba Executive Officer Member
5 Mr.Nicholas Okemwa Legal Officer Member
6
Mr. Fredrick Momanyi
Nyamori
Executive Assistant Member
8 Mr. Mutugi Mugambi
Supply Chain Management
Officer
Member
9 Mr. Quentine M.Mwiti Accountant 1 Member
7 Mr. Patrick Meyo Deputy Director , Supply
Chain Management Officer
Member.


As per the public procurement and disposal Act,For a person to be appointed to the tender committee(tender committees are for procurement of over 500K),they should be heads of departments(cabinet secretary appointees).




And its shollei and members of tender committe who were sent home and prosecuted, not mutunga.


Let me waster my 2 minutes to respond to you.

I'm not saying that Uhuru(Mutunga) should step aside, I'm saying that Waiguru(sholei) to step aside


You still dont want to agree that a CS is not the accounting officer by law. The registrar of the Judiciary is the accounting officer. Wacha kujifanya malenge bwana, it doesn't suit you.

Quote:
PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT ACT

Interpretation
(1)
In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires—
“accounting officer” means—
(a) an accounting officer of a national government entity referred to in section 67;
(b)an accounting officer of a county government entity referred to in section 148;
(c) in the case of the Judiciary, the Chief Registrar of the Judiciary; or
(d) in the case of the Parliamentary Service Commission, the Clerk of the Senate in respect of the Senate and the Clerk of the National Assembly in respect of the National Assembly;

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#173 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:30:16 PM
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murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I will leave this one here as my last contribution on this thread for hardwood







Doesn't the above post indicate who signed the contract to perform?


Swenani...ala? Yaani you have no idea of who hires and fires in govt?? Where are you? There exists a Public Service Commission...go back to the Katiba and read their mandate


Murchr,I didnt want to further engage on this issue, but I hope this isgoing to be my last commentsmile smile

Is Itumbi a civil servant? where was his position advertised and who hired him? Yes, he was hired to work for statehouse your tax money pays him

I'm telling you for a fact that the devolution ministry appointed Samuel and Hassan Noor to their current positions. Wasn't he the former PC ama those are not civil servants?

Why didn't the HoD and Heads of Sagas sign performance contract with PSC who hired them?

I'm not saying that Waiguru has stolen,but she needs to be held responsible for what is happening in her ministry since she was appointed to head that government function.Authority comes with responsibility.

If we want the accounting officer(PS) or tender committee to be responsible for the ministry,then let us agree that its the tender committee which should lead and represent the devolution ministry.

I think based on your argument, there is no one who is going to be held responsible in the government and private sector.

The accountant doesn't procure things, they only process payment and post transactions based on the invoices and requests they receive,the tender committee doesn't put in a request for procurement nor do they submit quotations,they only review quotations and make recommendations based on the available quotations,the procurement department only procures what the tender committee approves they only review tenders based on request submitted by the ministry, the cashier makes payments based on petty cash approvals, the principal Secretary doesn't procure things in the ministry. It is "Wanjiku" who needs to be blamed because if they would not ask for service delivery and suppliers didn't overquote misuse of public funds would not take place.Jail the suppliers and the citizens.

ION,David Moyes and Rogers were fired for their teams poor performance yet they do not play and score goals.Mourinho is being put on the spotlight yet he doesnt play.

Even our own Ole Lenku was fired for insecurity yet he was was supposed to lead on policy direction & implementation,he was not responsible and accountable for policing our streets,neighborhoods and borders...But he was held responsible and accountableand sacrificed for the mistakes Ochieng did in Mandera(I bet you do not know Ochieng in Mandera,He is the police man based in Mandera)...Tafakari hayo

Surely, wasn't Ole lenku sacked because of poor implementation of policy? Did you hear him being investigated on the bunduki saga that got Mutea Iringo out of OP? Toa goggles



More examples.,...It was Sholei with the acquisition of CJ's house and judges offices, Ndemo - Konza land saga and the list goes on


Does the chief registrar and PS sit in the procurement ctender committees?


To help you,these are the members of the tender committee when Sholei was the chief registrar.

1 Mr. Francis Kakai Kissinger Deputy Chief Registrar Chairman
2 Mr. David Rapando Deputy Chief Finance Officer
Deputy
Chairman
3 Mr. Wycliffe Wanga Obunde Accounts Controller Member
4 Mr. Nicholas Mbemba Executive Officer Member
5 Mr.Nicholas Okemwa Legal Officer Member
6
Mr. Fredrick Momanyi
Nyamori
Executive Assistant Member
8 Mr. Mutugi Mugambi
Supply Chain Management
Officer
Member
9 Mr. Quentine M.Mwiti Accountant 1 Member
7 Mr. Patrick Meyo Deputy Director , Supply
Chain Management Officer
Member.


As per the public procurement and disposal Act,For a person to be appointed to the tender committee(tender committees are for procurement of over 500K),they should be heads of departments(cabinet secretary appointees).




And its shollei and members of tender committe who were sent home and prosecuted, not mutunga.


Let me waster my 2 minutes to respond to you.

I'm not saying that Uhuru(Mutunga) should step aside, I'm saying that Waiguru(sholei) to step aside


You still dont want to agree that a CS is not the accounting officer by law. The registrar of the Judiciary is the accounting officer. Wacha kujifanya malenge bwana, it doesn't suit you.

Quote:
PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT ACT

Interpretation
(1)
In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires—
“accounting officer” means—
(a) an accounting officer of a national government entity referred to in section 67;
(b)an accounting officer of a county government entity referred to in section 148;
(c) in the case of the Judiciary, the Chief Registrar of the Judiciary; or
(d) in the case of the Parliamentary Service Commission, the Clerk of the Senate in respect of the Senate and the Clerk of the National Assembly in respect of the National Assembly;



Andi n the case of ministries, the PS is the accounting officer. Not CS waigooroo. #WaigoorooSafiKamaPamba.
Kusadikika
#174 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 3:58:22 AM
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You know how in tennis when they are about to serve they throw the ball in the air with one hand and then while the ball is in the air they curl their whole body with the hand holding the racket outstretched and then body hand and racket move together in one sweeping mighty force to hit the ball as it comes down for those 100 miles per hour serves.................. well Muthama with his matusis just threw Waiguru up like a tennis ball and for two weeks they have been curling their body and they have her right on the sweet spot of the racket at full force....... You can hear the Serena Williams like grunt as they smash her with all their might.
dunkang
#175 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 6:36:04 AM
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hardwood wrote:
dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba

If the best that Jubilee could hire is people like you, they don't deserve to be in power even tomorrow.

Who is Konchella??? I pity Uhuru if you work for him.


Yaani you dont even know who Konchella is? Why are you commenting on matters that you dont understand?

Kweli wewe na mende akili no kipimo moja. Ever heard of Ms. Mwanamaka Amani Mabruki. Eti Konchella. Or you are Itumbi, a certificate holder?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

newfarer
#176 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 7:08:43 AM
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www.politics.co.ke/polit...-thieves-kenyans-africa/


Unfortunately we have no face to fight mugabe back
punda amecheka
hardwood
#177 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 7:32:05 AM
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dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba

If the best that Jubilee could hire is people like you, they don't deserve to be in power even tomorrow.

Who is Konchella??? I pity Uhuru if you work for him.


Yaani you dont even know who Konchella is? Why are you commenting on matters that you dont understand?

Kweli wewe na mende akili no kipimo moja. Ever heard of Ms. Mwanamaka Amani Mabruki. Eti Konchella. Or you are Itumbi, a certificate holder?


okay, she joined after the reshuffle, but does that change the point of who is accountable?

http://jamhurimagazine.c...ncipal-secretaries.html

http://www.devolutionplanning.go.ke/?page_id=6
Anti_Burglar
#178 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 8:13:39 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
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dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
dunkang wrote:
hardwood wrote:
There are 2 PS working under waigooroo: Mangiti PS Planning and Konchella PS Devolution. These are the people who should be telling us what has been happening in their dockets, what was bought/paid, by who, and why, since they are the accounting officers Not waigooroo.

#WaiguruSafiKamaPamba

If the best that Jubilee could hire is people like you, they don't deserve to be in power even tomorrow.

Who is Konchella??? I pity Uhuru if you work for him.


Yaani you dont even know who Konchella is? Why are you commenting on matters that you dont understand?

Kweli wewe na mende akili no kipimo moja. Ever heard of Ms. Mwanamaka Amani Mabruki. Eti Konchella. Or you are Itumbi, a certificate holder?


And here I was thinking I'm too acidic to some Wazuans ........ This has got to be the best whopping I've ever read in this website yet the wood brain still talks.
Swenani
#179 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 9:54:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
willin2learn wrote:
Swenani wrote:
I will leave this one here as my last contribution on this thread for hardwood







Doesn't the above post indicate who signed the contract to perform?


Swenani...ala? Yaani you have no idea of who hires and fires in govt?? Where are you? There exists a Public Service Commission...go back to the Katiba and read their mandate


Murchr,I didnt want to further engage on this issue, but I hope this isgoing to be my last commentsmile smile

Is Itumbi a civil servant? where was his position advertised and who hired him? Yes, he was hired to work for statehouse your tax money pays him

I'm telling you for a fact that the devolution ministry appointed Samuel and Hassan Noor to their current positions. Wasn't he the former PC ama those are not civil servants?

Why didn't the HoD and Heads of Sagas sign performance contract with PSC who hired them?

I'm not saying that Waiguru has stolen,but she needs to be held responsible for what is happening in her ministry since she was appointed to head that government function.Authority comes with responsibility.

If we want the accounting officer(PS) or tender committee to be responsible for the ministry,then let us agree that its the tender committee which should lead and represent the devolution ministry.

I think based on your argument, there is no one who is going to be held responsible in the government and private sector.

The accountant doesn't procure things, they only process payment and post transactions based on the invoices and requests they receive,the tender committee doesn't put in a request for procurement nor do they submit quotations,they only review quotations and make recommendations based on the available quotations,the procurement department only procures what the tender committee approves they only review tenders based on request submitted by the ministry, the cashier makes payments based on petty cash approvals, the principal Secretary doesn't procure things in the ministry. It is "Wanjiku" who needs to be blamed because if they would not ask for service delivery and suppliers didn't overquote misuse of public funds would not take place.Jail the suppliers and the citizens.

ION,David Moyes and Rogers were fired for their teams poor performance yet they do not play and score goals.Mourinho is being put on the spotlight yet he doesnt play.

Even our own Ole Lenku was fired for insecurity yet he was was supposed to lead on policy direction & implementation,he was not responsible and accountable for policing our streets,neighborhoods and borders...But he was held responsible and accountableand sacrificed for the mistakes Ochieng did in Mandera(I bet you do not know Ochieng in Mandera,He is the police man based in Mandera)...Tafakari hayo

Surely, wasn't Ole lenku sacked because of poor implementation of policy? Did you hear him being investigated on the bunduki saga that got Mutea Iringo out of OP? Toa goggles



More examples.,...It was Sholei with the acquisition of CJ's house and judges offices, Ndemo - Konza land saga and the list goes on


Does the chief registrar and PS sit in the procurement ctender committees?


To help you,these are the members of the tender committee when Sholei was the chief registrar.

1 Mr. Francis Kakai Kissinger Deputy Chief Registrar Chairman
2 Mr. David Rapando Deputy Chief Finance Officer
Deputy
Chairman
3 Mr. Wycliffe Wanga Obunde Accounts Controller Member
4 Mr. Nicholas Mbemba Executive Officer Member
5 Mr.Nicholas Okemwa Legal Officer Member
6
Mr. Fredrick Momanyi
Nyamori
Executive Assistant Member
8 Mr. Mutugi Mugambi
Supply Chain Management
Officer
Member
9 Mr. Quentine M.Mwiti Accountant 1 Member
7 Mr. Patrick Meyo Deputy Director , Supply
Chain Management Officer
Member.


As per the public procurement and disposal Act,For a person to be appointed to the tender committee(tender committees are for procurement of over 500K),they should be heads of departments(cabinet secretary appointees).




And its shollei and members of tender committe who were sent home and prosecuted, not mutunga.


Let me waster my 2 minutes to respond to you.

I'm not saying that Uhuru(Mutunga) should step aside, I'm saying that Waiguru(sholei) to step aside


You still dont want to agree that a CS is not the accounting officer by law. The registrar of the Judiciary is the accounting officer. Wacha kujifanya malenge bwana, it doesn't suit you.

Quote:
PUBLIC FINANCE MANAGEMENT ACT

Interpretation
(1)
In this Act, unless the context otherwise requires—
“accounting officer” means—
(a) an accounting officer of a national government entity referred to in section 67;
(b)an accounting officer of a county government entity referred to in section 148;
(c) in the case of the Judiciary, the Chief Registrar of the Judiciary; or
(d) in the case of the Parliamentary Service Commission, the Clerk of the Senate in respect of the Senate and the Clerk of the National Assembly in respect of the National Assembly;



@Kipchirchir,Sometimes we have to agree to disagree or ask for time out.BTW,you refused to answer my question with above even after providing you with choices

I'm asking for time out at this point

But my stand is still that Waiguru should take responsibility for whatever is happening in her ministry.

A CS cannot appoint heads of department and turn around to ask the PS to take responsibility for these political appointee's actions yet it is the heads of departments who sit in the tender committee as per the public procurement and disposal act.If these appointments were done by the PSC then the PS can be accountable to them and can easily ask for their reassignment or redeployment

If these people were posted to their current position by PSC then the PS would have control over them but they are political appointees who are accountable to the people who appointed them.

The chief finance officer in the ministry of devolution was appointed by Waiguru yet as per the public financial management Act, it is the responsibility of the Treasury CS to appoint the financial officers in all the ministries.

My point is that authority and action should be accompanied with responsibility and accountability.If it has been proven that there was misuse of funds during the procurement process at the ministry and NYS why can't the appointing authority(Waiguru) fire Samuel odhiambo who is head of procurement at the ministry should be fired or suspended, She suspended Adan(whom she appointed at NYS) when it was proven that money was lost.Why did she suspend Adan if indeed she didnt have authority over him?

Waiguru should take both responsibility for her actions,since it's her people whom she appointed who are involved in this scandals.Moreover,If there are no laws or directives repelling the public financial management Act(2012), then Waiguru also usurped her powers by making these appointments.As far as I'm concerned the public procurement and disposal bill(2014) which proposes to grant CS's with powers to hire, fire, reassign, sanction and approve procurement is not law since it is still a bill.

Allow me to revert to default fish settings,If you are interested to discuss matters fish,I'm available




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PeterReborn
#180 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2015 10:13:50 AM
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What is see here is governance/societal gap.There is a mismatch on the expectations on the CS versus what the responsibility is for the CS per the law.What is obvious to the community is not obvious in law.
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