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Kidero/Safcon still and flashing cameras
Impunity
#21 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 6:45:11 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?


I dont know how they detect precise speed; juzi I was doing 49km/h just withi the detection range of the CAM (10 meters hivi, then a neanderthal in a probox zoom past me doing 90km/h and the the thing flashed and captured my vehicle instead.
Sad Sad Sad

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am sure it captured both, but the question is does it have a way of recognizing the culprit - I am sure the cops will think the mark-x is the offending car when it comes to speed even if the plugs, or the valves or the wires are broken and the thing can not even climb a hill.


I hardly do above 50km/h in the past two weeks or so due to the current problem bedeviling my Mark2...so I wonder why those CAMs flash on seeing me...ama anything on the fours is captured including phundas and mkoko?

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Kaigangio
#22 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 7:06:36 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?

@Masukuma, a cctv camera is not called a speed camera because it is meant to record fast moving objects in its field of view, NO!!
To start with any cctv camera is a surveillance camera and it does not matter where it is installed.
There are two types of surveillance cameras namely, the fixed and the PTZ (Pan, Tilt and Zoom).
The fixed camera can further be categorised into two types…fixed lense and varifocal lense. The fixed lense camera only records images from a a specific field of view which does not change…the focal length of the lense is fixed. The fixed zoom camera on the other hand has lense whose focal length can be changed either manually (manual varifocal lense) or automatic (Motorised zoom lense)
The PTZ camera can record images from a 360° horizontal field of view (Panning) and about 300° vertical field of view (Tilting) and at whichever angle of view it can also Zoom. The PTZs do have varying Panning and Tilting speeds. However in cctv surveillance design the most important is the panning speed. The lower category PTZs usually have low panning speeds of between 0° to 100° per second while the higher category PTZ can give anywhere between 200° and 300° per second panning speed. These high panning speed cameras are often refered to as Speed Cameras.
Fair enough but I will confess something to you…at least 80% of cctv installations in Kenya were installed without a design and they offer very poor quality recorded images…

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masukuma
#23 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 7:42:57 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?

@Masukuma, a cctv camera is not called a speed camera because it is meant to record fast moving objects in its field of view, NO!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I have read what I have written a couple of times and I am still wondering where I said a CCTV camera is a SPEED camera or vice-versa
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#24 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 9:43:17 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?

@Masukuma, a cctv camera is not called a speed camera because it is meant to record fast moving objects in its field of view, NO!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I have read what I have written a couple of times and I am still wondering where I said a CCTV camera is a SPEED camera or vice-versa


Ni kukosa kuelewa Masukush....usijali

Those speed cameras can/will only be useful if/when Kenyan drivers get new licence plates.....vision 2085
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Kaigangio
#25 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:54:06 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?

@Masukuma, a cctv camera is not called a speed camera because it is meant to record fast moving objects in its field of view, NO!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I have read what I have written a couple of times and I am still wondering where I said a CCTV camera is a SPEED camera or vice-versa

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Sure @masukuma…because what has been installed on your roads are nothing but high velocity cameras and not Doppler Radars as you want us to believe.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
tmakto
#26 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 12:34:26 AM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?

@Masukuma, a cctv camera is not called a speed camera because it is meant to record fast moving objects in its field of view, NO!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I have read what I have written a couple of times and I am still wondering where I said a CCTV camera is a SPEED camera or vice-versa


Ni kukosa kuelewa Masukush....usijali

Those speed cameras can/will only be useful if/when Kenyan drivers get new licence plates.....vision 2085


To vision 2085 ... and beyond!!! Laughing out loudly

We're making slow baby steps at this speed
Buster
#27 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2015 8:36:44 AM
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Joined: 5/17/2007
Posts: 1,345
Impunity wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Impunity wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Those are SPEED CAMERAS.... they take photos of vehicles that are coming - OK! Could they be used to check who was driving the vehicle - yes. but their primary reason of manufacture is SPEED detection.
The real surveillance ones are the ones safcom setup. they look like CCTVs. They can zoom - change direction like 360 degrees. These are the ones that are useful 'kutafuta watu'. The flash in the speed cameras is for usiku - number plate lazima ikuwe legible. The big issue i have with the 'speed' cameras (over and above that they have been placed in places where the road naturally limits speed) is that we don't have a way to really send the results of the system to the unsub. where they have been implemented well - the results are sent to your mail box and then you go pay ama contest in court. hapa sasa kabla upatikane ni lini?


I dont know how they detect precise speed; juzi I was doing 49km/h just withi the detection range of the CAM (10 meters hivi, then a neanderthal in a probox zoom past me doing 90km/h and the the thing flashed and captured my vehicle instead.
Sad Sad Sad

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I am sure it captured both, but the question is does it have a way of recognizing the culprit - I am sure the cops will think the mark-x is the offending car when it comes to speed even if the plugs, or the valves or the wires are broken and the thing can not even climb a hill.


I hardly do above 50km/h in the past two weeks or so due to the current problem bedeviling my Mark2...so I wonder why those CAMs flash on seeing me...ama anything on the fours is captured including phundas and mkoko?


I also wonder why guys think these are speed cams. I always cruise at 120 past the KU cams with confidence. These are surveillance cameras. But sadly they won't help in the event of a live crime in action. They are meant to be reactive. They take high resolution photos and have face recognition software. They are what Uhuru talked about a Year ago. They will be used like in the Boston and Thailand incidents, to try and identify suspects after an incident.
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