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Boris Boyka
#741 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:26:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1

@Obiero it seems growth is still on. When shall defaults,low loan uptake and current "economy crush" reflect in banks profits?

In 2016. Banks are allowed to restructure loans & many will do just that after the 90 day period to designate loans as NPLs is exhausted. Watch out for 2Q 2016 results for banks start taking provisions for bad loans.

@boris boyka.. the growth is sustained on increased interest rates on loans plus enhanced commissions on mobile banking which has been seen as more profitable than conventional alternative channels such as the ATM

Indeed banks have gone the mobile transactions & internent banking way which is "expensive" to customers but very convinient thus likable and most used. That means Safaricom Will continue growing (proportionally)
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
VituVingiSana
#742 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:36:36 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1

@Obiero it seems growth is still on. When shall defaults,low loan uptake and current "economy crush" reflect in banks profits?

In 2016. Banks are allowed to restructure loans & many will do just that after the 90 day period to designate loans as NPLs is exhausted. Watch out for 2Q 2016 results for banks start taking provisions for bad loans.

@boris boyka.. the growth is sustained on increased interest rates on loans plus enhanced commissions on mobile banking which has been seen as more profitable than conventional alternative channels such as the ATM

Indeed banks have gone the mobile transactions & internent banking way which is "expensive" to customers but very convinient thus likable and most used. That means Safaricom Will continue growing (proportionally)

And Imperial Bank has closed down. http://www.businessdaily...92/-/adljm1/-/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#743 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:52:44 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
[quote=obiero]Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1

@Obiero it seems growth is still on. When shall defaults,low loan uptake and current "economy crush" reflect in banks profits?

In 2016. Banks are allowed to restructure loans & many will do just that after the 90 day period to designate loans as NPLs is exhausted. Watch out for 2Q 2016 results for banks start taking provisions for bad loans.

@boris boyka.. the growth is sustained on increased interest rates on loans plus enhanced commissions on mobile banking which has been seen as more profitable than conventional alternative channels such as the ATM

Indeed banks have gone the mobile transactions & internent banking way which is "expensive" to customers but very convinient thus likable and most used. That means Safaricom Will continue growing (proportionally)

And Imperial Bank has closed down. http://www.businessdaily...2/-/adljm1/-/index.html[/quote]
Reporting season about to kick off and this shall hybernate the bear in as far as financial sector is concerned.. It may be the best time to buy! Share for firms such as COOP, EQTY, HFCK & KCB are trading at false values

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#744 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 11:33:29 AM
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Equity Group Holdings Financial Statement for the Period ended 30 Sep 15
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
moneydust
#745 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 3:23:20 PM
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People are not commenting on thisd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Truly the bear is in town and is not leaving anytime soon.
mlennyma
#746 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 3:26:34 PM
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moneydust wrote:


People are not commenting on thisd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Truly the bear is in town and is not leaving anytime soon.

if banks are still reporting profit gains the bear is less worrying
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#747 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55:13 PM
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Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4 Actual 18.1
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1 Actual 1.1

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#748 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 8:07:22 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
moneydust wrote:


People are not commenting on thisd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Truly the bear is in town and is not leaving anytime soon.

if banks are still reporting profit gains the bear is less worrying

In the unholy financial sector in Kenya, it should be understood that getting a drop in profits for any of the major banks is a very difficult task.. Near impossible. Think of 'free' school, church, government deposits being lent at 72%

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Boris Boyka
#749 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 8:40:38 PM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
moneydust wrote:


People are not commenting on thisd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Truly the bear is in town and is not leaving anytime soon.

if banks are still reporting profit gains the bear is less worrying

In the unholy financial sector in Kenya, it should be understood that getting a drop in profits for any of the major banks is a very difficult task.. Near impossible. Think of 'free' school, church, government deposits being lent at 72%

With increased rates they're jus Smiling all the way to CBK.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
enyands
#750 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 8:48:35 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
moneydust wrote:


People are not commenting on thisd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Truly the bear is in town and is not leaving anytime soon.

if banks are still reporting profit gains the bear is less worrying

In the unholy financial sector in Kenya, it should be understood that getting a drop in profits for any of the major banks is a very difficult task.. Near impossible. Think of 'free' school, church, government deposits being lent at 72%

With increased rates they're jus Smiling all the way to CBK.



kama kawaida for every force in a forward direction there is one in the opposite direction, so I know wanjiku gets the beating from this,not good but indeed excellent and thorough beatings.
innovator
#751 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 10:59:48 PM
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obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4 Actual 18.1
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1 Actual 1.1

You are doing fine @obiero so far, keep up.
Am highly doubting Kcb and coop.
enyands
#752 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 11:46:57 PM
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innovator wrote:
obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4 Actual 18.1
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1 Actual 1.1

You are doing fine @obiero so far, keep up.
Am highly doubting Kcb and coop.



Shame on you about coop I choose to disagree. McKinsey had paid them a visit the other day so they should be fine,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly so if kcb want to be ok they should just call those McKinsey people .they work like magic
obiero
#753 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2015 7:27:44 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
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Location: nairobi
enyands wrote:
innovator wrote:
obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8
EQTY 18.4 Actual 18.1
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1 Actual 1.1

You are doing fine @obiero so far, keep up.
Am highly doubting Kcb and coop.



Shame on you about coop I choose to disagree. McKinsey had paid them a visit the other day so they should be fine,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly so if kcb want to be ok they should just call those McKinsey people .they work like magic

@innovator @enyands.. Lets wait and see. Verdict should be out soon enough

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#754 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 9:51:37 AM
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19.4bn PBT for KCB. Not too shabby. And @Obiero is within 2% of his estimate.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#755 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:27:37 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
19.4bn PBT for KCB. Not too shabby. And @Obiero is within 2% of his estimate.

Ethiopia approval obtained

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
heri
#756 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:37:46 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
19.4bn PBT for KCB. Not too shabby. And @Obiero is within 2% of his estimate.

Ethiopia approval obtained


@Obiero, what does opening a representative office mean? what will they allowed to do in Ethiopia?
obiero
#757 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:43:22 AM
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heri wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
19.4bn PBT for KCB. Not too shabby. And @Obiero is within 2% of his estimate.

Ethiopia approval obtained


@Obiero, what does opening a representative office mean? what will they allowed to do in Ethiopia?

Same thing HSBC does in Kenya. Marketing for large corporate deals, mainly in syndicated loans.. Its a major plus, for KCB

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#758 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:47:11 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,503
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
innovator wrote:
obiero wrote:
Q3 PBT in KES 'B
KCB 19.8 Actual 19.4
EQTY 18.4 Actual 18.1
COOP 13.5
BBK 9.8
SCBK 8.2
DTB 7.2
NIC 4.5
CFC 4.4
NBK 3.2
HFCK 1.1 Actual 1.1

You are doing fine @obiero so far, keep up.
Am highly doubting Kcb and coop.



Shame on you about coop I choose to disagree. McKinsey had paid them a visit the other day so they should be fine,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly so if kcb want to be ok they should just call those McKinsey people .they work like magic

@innovator @enyands.. Lets wait and see. Verdict should be out soon enough

The jury has spoken on KCB, lets wait for COOP which I vouch to have the highest percentage growth in PBT for any listed lender in Q3

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
shocks
#759 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:27:58 AM
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Total assets, 607 billion, 1 trillion mark will be crossed soon, of course to be assisted by deposit flight from small banks. The bank assets grew by 25% but the group assets grew by 34%, its the region that is powering this train. Wait till all regional entities achieve the efficiencies similar to those in Kenya
VituVingiSana
#760 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2015 11:31:02 AM
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shocks wrote:
Total assets, 607billion, 1 trillion mark will be crossed soon, of course to be assisted by deposit flight from small banks

2017 at the earliest. Lots of competition from Equity for regional business. Max 800bn in 2016. 1 trillion will have to wait.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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