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Boris Boyka wrote:I don't blame the President. We have forgotten we have a new constitution that stripped off powers from the President. Our presidency is powerless and merely ceremonial. Power was vested in institutions like parliament, courts,county governments,IPOA,among others. Remember the time UK made directions that have been challenged by the "powerful" institutions like in the 10000 police recruitment. Let's face it Its the institutions and county gvts messing us up!. Stealing is not a jubilee thing alone its rampant across political divide, jubilee gvt is a scapegoat.  Jubilee is scapegoat? See what CORD is doingIf Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:I don't blame the President. We have forgotten we have a new constitution that stripped off powers from the President. Our presidency is powerless and merely ceremonial. Power was vested in institutions like parliament, courts,county governments,IPOA,among others. Remember the time UK made directions that have been challenged by the "powerful" institutions like in the 10000 police recruitment. Let's face it Its the institutions and county gvts messing us up!. Stealing is not a jubilee thing alone its rampant across political divide, jubilee gvt is a scapegoat. Jubilee is scapegoat? See what CORD is doing Swenani I see the hand of Cord in all this. It was a cord guy who got the accounts after buying the moles in gov't. So now the talking points for Jubilee gov't failure are 1. It failed because of Raila 2. It is Raila 3. We are better than Burundi 4. It is because of Raila 5. It's devolution 6. Raila 7. We don't have enough hashtags 8. Uhuru is powerless (someone actually said that?) 9. It's the constitution of gayism and abortions 10. We always knew it is because of Raila Amollo Tinga Odinga Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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@ boris which institution is responsible for eurobond billions which have apparently disappeared or cannot be accounted for?? Do you know you personally will have to pay part of this debt? Let's not support someone blindly just because is our tribesman
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Boris Boyka wrote:I don't blame the President. We have forgotten we have a new constitution that stripped off powers from the President. Our presidency is powerless and merely ceremonial. Power was vested in institutions like parliament, courts,county governments,IPOA,among others. Remember the time UK made directions that have been challenged by the "powerful" institutions like in the 10000 police recruitment. Let's face it Its the institutions and county gvts messing us up!. Stealing is not a jubilee thing alone its rampant across political divide, jubilee gvt is a scapegoat. I am sure you know all you have written there are called "EXCUSES" for Non-performance. A few things: 1. If the president feels completely that he is powerless and thus unable to solve this country's problems, he can gain courage and tell us so. He will retire honorably and give us an opportunity to try someone who can. Alternatively, he should just tell us so and lead us into a referendum to sort the annoying sections of the constitution he feels are not working. By the way some of the changes he may want done may not even need a referendum. He had they tyranny to do that. 2. Tell me what more powers the president needs to sort issues like these!!! As in guys are courageous enough to run foreign accounts with our money under his watch? Its either he is asleep or he is so much part of it. For as long as a few people are stealing left, right and center under his watch, it wont matter how many projects he initiates. We are not asking him to be God and solve all our problems, we are only asking him to wake up and just do the minimum of what he needs to do. A guy who can't even constitute a full cabinet? Surely? Even Kibaki running a very weak govt would do it and deal with the noises later. By the way was it him doing it or the guys around him? Wharever men!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Washiku, these Jubilee people are not getting it. More powerful regimes than this one of same white shirts have fallen coz the economy was not doing well. Kenyans are not slow. We can see money being stolen and misused left, right and center. Every day its another story. Teachers not being paid even after going to class is a coloasal error of epic proportions. Jubilee people. If someone talks about the economy being weak every day until the next elections, this gov't shall fall. So take it seriously. Already you can see on wazua, other than the 36bloggers and their pseudos people aren't happy with the economy and the corruption being exhibited in the duo's gov't. Right now Raila is not palatable, but endeleeni tu vivyo hivyo. Hata Moi alishindwa. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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limanika wrote:If as a president you give directives to spend tax money on socialist type expenses e.g nys, laptops, putting electricity in grass thatched huts, paying school and exam fee for everybody including those who can afford, paying maternity fee for everybody including those who can afford, dishing money to youths in guise of uwezo when there's no guarantee they will pay back, etc, then you gotta tell us where you'll get money to pay salaries and debts Middle class have problems, you don't want people in grass thatched huts to enjoy the benefits of electricity, that should only be in gated estates. Now because you can afford an academy with an extra 5k fee for computer classes, now suddenly its socialist to provide the other kids with some computer knowledge. The God who created all of us is seeing you, may he unleash his bakora on you, when you find yourself at the other end of the grass, that grass thatched roof will be better with power to charge your Chinese phone.
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alma1 wrote:limanika wrote:@ mtafifi, it's a different ball game when economy is in tatters. People are not too foolish No one in my family is voting so I've done my part. We won't until we see candidates we can believe in. Hawa wako hapa wote sio watu I can even think of voting for or against. You are part of the problem because you are not part of the solution.If you tell us not to vote how do you help this country.If you feel you have better leadership qualities tan the cordashians or the JAPanese why not offer yourself for leadership ama kazi yako ni kubitch tu without tangible solutions.There is difference between you,Itumbi,Alai and the 36 bloggers. Consistency is better than intensity
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PeterReborn wrote:alma1 wrote:limanika wrote:@ mtafifi, it's a different ball game when economy is in tatters. People are not too foolish No one in my family is voting so I've done my part. We won't until we see candidates we can believe in. Hawa wako hapa wote sio watu I can even think of voting for or against. You are part of the problem because you are not part of the solution.If you tell us not to vote how do you help this country.If you feel you have better leadership qualities tan the cordashians or the JAPanese why not offer yourself for leadership ama kazi yako ni kubitch tu without tangible solutions.There is difference between you,Itumbi,Alai and the 36 bloggers. My friend, who do you want me to vote for. Uhuru? No way. Raila? No way. Since those are the only two I know going to compete in 2017 right now, I shall not vote. I'm not voting for these two or anyone in the current gov't system. From MCA, MP, all the way to President. In fact, if you have ever been anywhere near gov't I shall not vote for you. Unless of course your party comes up with a viable candidate for me to choose from. It is not my work to help the country. That's the work of the gov't. Right now hiding 53billion Euros somewhere in the ether doesn't sound to me like helping. I do not have to run for any political seat because I do other things I like to do better. I know I'd make a horrible politician so I'd rather help my country doing the things I'm best at. It is my work to vote or not vote my conscience. And its very clear. I'd rather die than wake up at 5am in the morning to line up for people who end up lining up their tummys. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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First of all you should know that I agree there is a problem with current running of gvt. While you're complaining, I am looking at actual possible causes. Trying to see if the past & present behavior of opposition leaders is better and I find it ain't. What can a President do to a "suspect"? ....suspend (full stop) Its the Courts that do Give verdict to cases before them. Our activist courts,Corrupt judges and an " autonomous judiciary" Evidence is to come from several other key personnel, institutions and the prosecutor has a role. Coupled with political bondage of " our own is targeted ".These many parties involved (monkies) who collude are no easy task for President. The President like any other CEO can have surbodinates who let you down seriously and their overhaul every now and then is met with a lot of political and legal resistance.In the current opposition and gvt I see veeery few individuals to rely on. I would like someone to point out what they'll do IF they were appointed President today. Sometimes talking is easier than doing when put on that seat. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Swenani wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:I don't blame the President. We have forgotten we have a new constitution that stripped off powers from the President. Our presidency is powerless and merely ceremonial. Power was vested in institutions like parliament, courts,county governments,IPOA,among others. Remember the time UK made directions that have been challenged by the "powerful" institutions like in the 10000 police recruitment. Let's face it Its the institutions and county gvts messing us up!. Stealing is not a jubilee thing alone its rampant across political divide, jubilee gvt is a scapegoat. Jubilee is scapegoat? See what CORD is doing I mean its not about the parties but about virtues of specific individuals. Let me assure you if the current cord team gets to power it will eat more than JAPanese. During PM times....kericho Kisumu road, Kenya poly management, PM's office, look at cordasian governors and MPs with a lot of swindling. Oil saga....fertilizer and maize scandals.... The current group is a "Brady gasket bunch of eaters" across divide. The real Power and action rests in we THE PEOPLE. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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