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T-bill advise
maka
#81 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:45:04 PM
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Impunity wrote:
doubletap wrote:
Impunity wrote:

Which is worse should the gaaament go Greece way:

Keep your money in Equity or keep them in CBK (read Bills and Bonds)

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Good question. What would signal that they have mopped up all the liquidity from the market?


I guess the moment they start geting under-subscription en-masse?


with this high rates we won't see undersubscripitons any time soon....
possunt quia posse videntur
Impunity
#82 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:53:41 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
doubletap wrote:
Impunity wrote:

Which is worse should the gaaament go Greece way:

Keep your money in Equity or keep them in CBK (read Bills and Bonds)

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Good question. What would signal that they have mopped up all the liquidity from the market?


I guess the moment they start geting under-subscription en-masse?


with this high rates we won't see undersubscripitons any time soon....


It has started to level out...my balls tells me it has leveled now.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

streetwise
#83 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:01:54 PM
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if we are going Greece then your money is safer invested in land.

Note I am not saying real estate, I mean undeveloped land
Mike Ock
#84 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:06:18 PM
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I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step
mulla
#85 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:42:49 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.
Impunity
#86 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:45:35 PM
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mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


3M liquid cas...mmm, wazualets are watching.

And that amount ivested today will give you KES. 550,241.10 come 24-Oct-2016.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

kyukkamba
#87 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:51:38 PM
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..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad
Ni Uhuru wa Mbesha...Niguo kana tiguo?
Boris Boyka
#88 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:34:27 PM
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kyukkamba wrote:
..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad

It will resurrect. If you don't trust it then have a mattress bank!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Impunity
#89 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:55:57 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
kyukkamba wrote:
..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad

It will resurrect. If you don't trust it then have a mattress bank!


It is worse leaving your mirrions in Equity or CBA...may be buy an 8 inch thick mattress.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

whiteowl
#90 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 10:08:04 AM
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kyukkamba wrote:
..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad


The only way you can survive a government bankruptcy is to have foreign currency under your mattress. The local currency will be severely devalued and the few banks still in operation will have a crazy withdrawal limit like $10/day..Kenya isn't bankrupt yet but give it a few years.
maka
#91 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 10:34:42 AM
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Impunity wrote:
mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


3M liquid cas...mmm, wazualets are watching.

And that amount ivested today will give you KES. 550,241.10 come 24-Oct-2016.


Not bad returns....
possunt quia posse videntur
Impunity
#92 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48:12 AM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


3M liquid cas...mmm, wazualets are watching.

And that amount ivested today will give you KES. 550,241.10 come 24-Oct-2016.


Not bad returns....


Yep,considering the minimal risk involved...very few plots in Nairobi can give that return within a year but the risk in proti is so high plus liquidating a prot takes much time...even buying one.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Mike Ock
#93 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 12:17:21 PM
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mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


Thanks, I'm going today
maka
#94 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 12:29:55 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


Thanks, I'm going today


Mandate card zimeisha...hadi Monday...
possunt quia posse videntur
instinct
#95 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 3:48:29 PM
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maka wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


Thanks, I'm going today


Mandate card zimeisha...hadi Monday...


Greek crisis scenario possible...
shiznit
#96 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 4:43:19 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
kyukkamba wrote:
..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad


The only way you can survive a government bankruptcy is to have foreign currency under your mattress. The local currency will be severely devalued and the few banks still in operation will have a crazy withdrawal limit like $10/day..Kenya isn't bankrupt yet but give it a few years.


But what is causing the sudden gain by the KES against the USD? Didn't it print 101.9/- yesterday?

Feels like honey with the taste of bile. Anxious
“The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
whiteowl
#97 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 8:26:28 PM
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shiznit wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
kyukkamba wrote:
..what will happen if the government goes bankrupt.... wengi wanaongea serkal inaelekea kufilisika... what will happen to the mirions i invest in Bills then the Gava. goes kaput!!!!Sad Sad


The only way you can survive a government bankruptcy is to have foreign currency under your mattress. The local currency will be severely devalued and the few banks still in operation will have a crazy withdrawal limit like $10/day..Kenya isn't bankrupt yet but give it a few years.


But what is causing the sudden gain by the KES against the USD? Didn't it print 101.9/- yesterday?

Feels like honey with the t


aste of bile. Anxious



Liquidity squeeze means fewer shillings circulating and any scarce commodity tends to increase in value.It will continue appreciating possibly to below 90 and CBK would like it to stay there until we are done paying USD loans next year but the econ will bleed.
Impunity
#98 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2015 9:27:54 PM
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maka wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
mulla wrote:
Mike Ock wrote:
I want to sink 3m here, see what happens. Wazuans, please guide me through the process step by step


First go to CBK and collect a CDS account opening form. From there its all self explanatory from the CBK website. Its not a complicated process as it may feel.


Thanks, I'm going today


Mandate card zimeisha...hadi Monday...


Are you sure?
I was there at 11am anyway left a long queue of clueless wannabes in matters T Bills/Bonds.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Speculz
#99 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:31:07 AM
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How does one know your account has been opened? Do they notify you or you have to visit physically?
"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright
kasibitta
#100 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:56:22 AM
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Speculz wrote:
How does one know your account has been opened? Do they notify you or you have to visit physically?


@speculz.After seven days they are supposed to send you an email with your details.But being the govt style CBK, you better visit them and enquire after the seven days.They will then write for you on paper your CDS account number and Virtual account.

I am still waiting for my details on email, more than two months later.Good thing , i did walk myself there and got it written for me.

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