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Moses Kuria
Tara
#121 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:08:25 PM
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So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.
alma1
#122 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:22:41 PM
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Location: hapo
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


someone is going to jail. his/her voters aren't.

its high stakes gambling.

if someone is jailed > i was supporting him
if someone is not jailed > we have always supported him

the opposing side

if someone is not jailed> they would never vote for us anyway
if someone is jailed > one term president

simple math.

unfortunately high stakes gambling make people go broke. One of these groups is going to lose and lose big time.

Unfortunately also after trying to be a leader, Ruto is now a pawn in politics. Kabetes has convinced us thus.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#123 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:23:01 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


Kuria was just telling the plain truth. Truths known by Ruto and Uhuru and many more and were even discussed here in 2011/12 on the hague threads...
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#124 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:31:58 PM
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murchr wrote:
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


Kuria was just telling the plain truth. Truths known by Ruto and Uhuru and many more and were even discussed here in 2011/12 on the hague threads...


So are you saying Kuria should be in jail? For paying fake witnesses or are you saying because you think raila did it, he should be in jail too?

This thing my friend backfired big time. I know you read kalenjin warriors facebook posts. Big mistake.

Kwanza if the fellow is jailed coz of Kuria's fake witnesses.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#125 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:39:49 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


Kuria was just telling the plain truth. Truths known by Ruto and Uhuru and many more and were even discussed here in 2011/12 on the hague threads...


So are you saying Kuria should be in jail? For paying fake witnesses or are you saying because you think raila did it, he should be in jail too?

This thing my friend backfired big time. I know you read kalenjin warriors facebook posts. Big mistake.

Kwanza if the fellow is jailed coz of Kuria's fake witnesses.


Yes, he should be in jail...thing is, he paid people to testify falsely. Waki asked Ocampo to investigate the allegations..did he? Thats the big question. Kama you are the real alma, then you must remember that conversation
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#126 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:55:46 PM
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Location: hapo
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


Kuria was just telling the plain truth. Truths known by Ruto and Uhuru and many more and were even discussed here in 2011/12 on the hague threads...


So are you saying Kuria should be in jail? For paying fake witnesses or are you saying because you think raila did it, he should be in jail too?

This thing my friend backfired big time. I know you read kalenjin warriors facebook posts. Big mistake.

Kwanza if the fellow is jailed coz of Kuria's fake witnesses.


Yes, he should be in jail...thing is, he paid people to testify falsely. Waki asked Ocampo to investigate the allegations..did he? Thats the big question. Kama you are the real alma, then you must remember that conversation


You see the real murchr

that's the story that no one is buying

If he bought witnesses, then the matapaka should be in jail.

but have you noticed, no one, not the fake kenyan cops, or even the real deal in the hague has even offered that they shall arrest the fellow.

We know most kenyans just get horny on vera sidikas selulate. But reality is

Kuria is free even now even after confessing to the media.

Meaning, he's talking gas.

As usual.

All of a sudden Kuria has become Jesus Christ. This fellow on this forum, we have said, take him seriously at your own peril. It's like taking Robert Alai seriously.

I will say this with no fear of being arrested by the myriad of so called security laws by JAPanese.

Moses Kuria should be in jail for admitting that he pays people to bear false witness in courts. Oh by the way, the matapaka ain't going to heaven either. Bearing false witness is a big thing in Heaven.


Second.

If the political plan was to finish Raila, then thats where sycophancy becomes a disease.

There was no reason to bring up Raila or fixers, at all. But now that Kuria did, it's an issue.

This is not a forum for the weak minded Kenyan voter who votes like a fool.

Kuria burnt PNU, TNA or whatever they will call themselves next.

Go to Eldoret and find out the truth.



Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

harrydre
#127 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:49:58 PM
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Posts: 9,131
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possible scenarios:

1) Kasin > ICC > Okoa community
2) Professor > mashamba fallout > Gideon Ndani!
i.am.back!!!!
murchr
#128 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 11:30:31 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tara wrote:
So what is the game plan here? I just don't understand what this man is up to. Whatever he is trying to do looks to me like it will just create a rift between Uhuru and Ruto - his leaders. And if Ruto moves to Raila's side then they are guaranteed to win come elections. Also why involve Karua in this mess? Isn't all this noise going to harm his guy Uhuru? I am assuming Kuria is untouchable since is openly admitting to things normal people wouldn't.

Someone help me understand.


Kuria was just telling the plain truth. Truths known by Ruto and Uhuru and many more and were even discussed here in 2011/12 on the hague threads...


So are you saying Kuria should be in jail? For paying fake witnesses or are you saying because you think raila did it, he should be in jail too?

This thing my friend backfired big time. I know you read kalenjin warriors facebook posts. Big mistake.

Kwanza if the fellow is jailed coz of Kuria's fake witnesses.


Yes, he should be in jail...thing is, he paid people to testify falsely. Waki asked Ocampo to investigate the allegations..did he? Thats the big question. Kama you are the real alma, then you must remember that conversation


You see the real murchr

that's the story that no one is buying

If he bought witnesses, then the matapaka should be in jail.

but have you noticed, no one, not the fake kenyan cops, or even the real deal in the hague has even offered that they shall arrest the fellow.

We know most kenyans just get horny on vera sidikas selulate. But reality is

Kuria is free even now even after confessing to the media.

Meaning, he's talking gas.

As usual.

All of a sudden Kuria has become Jesus Christ. This fellow on this forum, we have said, take him seriously at your own peril. It's like taking Robert Alai seriously.

I will say this with no fear of being arrested by the myriad of so called security laws by JAPanese.

Moses Kuria should be in jail for admitting that he pays people to bear false witness in courts. Oh by the way, the matapaka ain't going to heaven either. Bearing false witness is a big thing in Heaven.


Second.

If the political plan was to finish Raila, then thats where sycophancy becomes a disease.

There was no reason to bring up Raila or fixers, at all. But now that Kuria did, it's an issue.

This is not a forum for the weak minded Kenyan voter who votes like a fool.

Kuria burnt PNU, TNA or whatever they will call themselves next.

Go to Eldoret and find out the truth.





You've missed the point by a very wide berth. But if up to this date you have not noticed that what was presented at he hague is just a circus then you cant be helped.

In all this, those who lost big time are the victims who were killed by neighbors because they were perceived to be outsiders.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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PeterReborn
#129 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:39:09 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 1,063
harrydre wrote:
possible scenarios:

1) Kasin > ICC > Okoa community
2) Professor > mashamba fallout > Gideon Ndani!

Beween Gideon and machozi,who has a big clout of the Kaleos?If machozi was to join Babu would he agree to be the DP again? Water melon?
Consistency is better than intensity
PeterReborn
#130 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:51:12 AM
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Ohuru needs to tame his dog.This noise is not good and may lead to a fallout in the tyrrany.Of course Babu will be the beneficiary.He is waiting like the proverbial hyena.
Consistency is better than intensity
TAZ
#131 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:38:31 AM
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I think the person pulling the strings here is Ruto not Uhuru....
Obi 1 Kanobi
#132 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:55:10 AM
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Ruto is probably going down with the ICC, how does a guilty verdict play out in the context of him remaining a running mate.

What happens to the massive Kalenjin vote if Ruto is found guilty, and ruled out of the 2017 race.

The PNU gameplan is obviously to drag RAO into the mess and to distance UK as far away from the mess as possible. So far its working as RAO's team as usual are doing little to read the play are react accordingly.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
washiku
#133 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 12:35:30 PM
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Its extremely naive to imagine that all this noise is going on without the blessing of Ruto and Uhuru, whether they say it in public or not.
Muheani
#134 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:08:08 PM
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Tony Gachoka on JKL last night gave an apt description of who Kuria and his ilk are.
PeterReborn
#135 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:13:13 PM
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washiku wrote:
Its extremely naive to imagine that all this noise is going on without the blessing of Ruto and Uhuru, whether they say it in public or not.

Maybe its a diversion from the cash crunch
Consistency is better than intensity
Impunity
#136 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:28:08 PM
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Location: Masada
PeterReborn wrote:
washiku wrote:
Its extremely naive to imagine that all this noise is going on without the blessing of Ruto and Uhuru, whether they say it in public or not.

Maybe its a diversion from the cash crunch


Point on!
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McReggae
#137 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:44:48 PM
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Sijui it is Ruto, sijui ni Uhuru........mnachesa, mnalala darasani!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
harrydre
#138 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:54:46 PM
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Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
PeterReborn wrote:
harrydre wrote:
possible scenarios:

1) Kasin > ICC > Okoa community
2) Professor > mashamba fallout > Gideon Ndani!

Beween Gideon and machozi,who has a big clout of the Kaleos?If machozi was to join Babu would he agree to be the DP again? Water melon?


you wait and see how the cards will be played out by late 2016, man Giddy will have a very large kaleo following...watch and learn. Kenyans are purely tribal.
i.am.back!!!!
Othelo
#139 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:03:11 PM
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harrydre wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
harrydre wrote:
possible scenarios:

1) Kasin > ICC > Okoa community
2) Professor > mashamba fallout > Gideon Ndani!

Beween Gideon and machozi,who has a big clout of the Kaleos?If machozi was to join Babu would he agree to be the DP again? Water melon?


you wait and see how the cards will be played out by late 2016, man Giddy will have a very large kaleo following...watch and learn. Kenyans are purely tribal.

By that time >>>> ........ @Muthengi would be there!!!smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
hardwood
#140 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2015 11:19:36 AM
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I think Mr Crystal Ball's theory is correct.

http://www.standardmedia...rances-on-dp-ruto-fixing
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