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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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haijui number ya Moi or Njonjo, Kibaki e.t.c. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Hello Joined: 4/20/2015 Posts: 2
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2014 Posts: 231
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They better have consent from Immigration to use their Integrated Population Registry System (IPRS) data and sell it openly to the public. "Occasionally I drop a tea cup to shatter on the floor. On purpose. I am not satisfied when it does not gather itself up again. Someday perhaps that cup will come together."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Bykhovets wrote:They better have consent from Immigration to use their Integrated Population Registry System (IPRS) data and sell it openly to the public.
who says it's from IPRS? they could have data captured all the books you fill before entering any of the buildings in Nairobi! the critical thing is that they have the data and unless someone can trace it back to the IPRS - they can pretty do what they want with that data coz it's theirs. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/10/2008 Posts: 365
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@masukuma,
Is the data theirs, simply because they have captured it ?
If anything, if they have captured it from the buildings in town, then they have stolen it and they have it illegally,
I guess i should be able to consent to my details being made public
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Wakenya hawajajua identity theft "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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subzero wrote:@masukuma,
Is the data theirs, simply because they have captured it ?
If anything, if they have captured it from the buildings in town, then they have stolen it and they have it illegally,
I guess i should be able to consent to my details being made public yap!! any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Things are getting very thick.I know a number of supermarkets that do data analysis and are able to predict your state-Whether you are pregnant,have small kids etc based on the items you buy and therefore can customise the adverts to the customers based on their state. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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PeterReborn wrote:Things are getting very thick.I know a number of supermarkets that do data analysis and are able to predict your state-Whether you are pregnant,have small kids etc based on the items you buy and therefore can customise the adverts to the customers based on their state. so where are these adverts placed, I am assuming a supermarket has many different people going in and out
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! The internet will not forget.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Things are getting very thick.I know a number of supermarkets that do data analysis and are able to predict your state-Whether you are pregnant,have small kids etc based on the items you buy and therefore can customise the adverts to the customers based on their state. so where are these adverts placed, I am assuming a supermarket has many different people going in and out The supermarkets have your mobile numbers so they can send you a tailor made advert to you.For instance if a woman is pregnant then the supermarket can send her adverts about baby cots,baby cloths etc. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! The internet will not forget. I don't want it to forget.... the whole thing about privacy is misplaced! privacy is dead! long live privacy. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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PeterReborn wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:PeterReborn wrote:Things are getting very thick.I know a number of supermarkets that do data analysis and are able to predict your state-Whether you are pregnant,have small kids etc based on the items you buy and therefore can customise the adverts to the customers based on their state. so where are these adverts placed, I am assuming a supermarket has many different people going in and out The supermarkets have your mobile numbers so they can send you a tailor made advert to you.For instance if a woman is pregnant then the supermarket can send her adverts about baby cots,baby cloths etc. ok, I was thinking more of floor placed adds, makes sense.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! The internet will not forget. I don't want it to forget.... the whole thing about privacy is misplaced! privacy is dead! long live privacy. Plan B. Anonymity! This I will fight for to the bitter end.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! Ben Chege Ngumi...An Investor of the NSE...The last digits of your Bank account end with ...660. Your official PO Box ends with 98. Niendelee ama nisiendelee???? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! The internet will not forget. I don't want it to forget.... the whole thing about privacy is misplaced! privacy is dead! long live privacy. Plan B. Anonymity! This I will fight for to the bitter end. I have always felt anonymity has it's context 1) when you are living in a really dictatorial society and you need to 'voice' your opinions 2) when you want to say something really shady but don't want repuccussions of the same to follow you in real life i.e. you want to be a hypocrite! The 1st one is the only good application of anonymity - the second one can be just cowardly... have you read the youtube comments lately? nasty people... hiding undershadows... that's why there is only one masukuma.... lol! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:By the way is "your" id card number your personal property? Does someone knowing it make it criminal? Coz I know Moi, Njonjo and Kibaki's numbers. At what point does knowing people's id number become criminal? 5! 10 million? I think the issue here is an issue of source. If you can draw a line between the data they have and your data (which you collected/regenerated)- you can cry foul but not without that Give me your ID number uone 20642029 Leo kwa people daily zimejaa.... sijui how many pages! Ben Chege Ngumi...An Investor of the NSE...The last digits of your Bank account end with ...660. Your official PO Box ends with 98. Niendelee ama nisiendelee???? yeah.... there is a thread with my identity and another with my salary on this forum but some of that info. is really old info... I don't use that account and the p.o box ilifungwa.... but even if it was correct - it's still useless information to have. But based on what you have gotten - You just queried the Central Depository System with old info about some stocks I bought along time ago. Anyway.... I was expecting identity theft bwana sio information on who a certain guy is... I know Daniel Toroitich Arap Moi has id no 0000001 and Kibaki has 0000002, Njonjo has 0000003.... e.t.c. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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