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Sir invest
#781 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 8:37:40 AM
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Anyone going for anything approaching Ksh.0.00 is a mere speculator not investor!!!
Aguytrying
#782 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:08:39 AM
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Sir invest wrote:
Anyone going for anything approaching Ksh.0.00 is a mere speculator not investor!!!


Actually that would be a super investor, getting a company for free, unless is a loss making shaky firm which this is.

ADSS is soon joining the sub 2.00 bob camp alongside HAFR, Mumias. Truly we were in a bull market where firms are listed at lofty valuations. Kenyan IPO are VERY tricky, for small caps, i think its best to avoid. only Britam and Cic are faring well post listing in recent times. Tranny is 1/5 of its listing price 50 now 12!! kuna watu wamechomeka
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Boris Boyka
#783 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:24:30 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
@guru254 was loud mouthed on this one..


And I will continue to be loud mouthed on it.. My average buy around 8.75 bob and I'm now waiting patiently for 5bob so I can get more... If we don't get there I will just wait!

I invest for the long term without short term speculation unlike some here who think they are genies who can see into the future!


@Guru You sound like a super speculator to me, on this share. Just admit, you are speculating.


I'm only willing to sell when I've doubled my money!

Now at 1.50.. Steady approaching its fair value of 0.00

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That's true. How's your favorite airline doing? KQ unlike HAFR has negative equity.
*I have no HAFR, I do not intend to buy HAFR, I do not recommend one buys HAFR*
As our police say," People have burnt to recognition "
From 25/- to Shilingi na sumuni.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Fyatu
#784 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 4:35:14 PM
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meanwhile britank, kcb, equity, mpesa and a host of other bluechips have refused to tank proper
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
mlennyma
#785 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 5:22:19 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
meanwhile britank, kcb, equity, mpesa and a host of other bluechips have refused to tank proper

markets reverse without notice to anyone
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
MaichBlack
#786 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 6:50:52 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
guru267 wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
@guru254 was loud mouthed on this one..


And I will continue to be loud mouthed on it.. My average buy around 8.75 bob and I'm now waiting patiently for 5bob so I can get more... If we don't get there I will just wait!

I invest for the long term without short term speculation unlike some here who think they are genies who can see into the future!


@Guru You sound like a super speculator to me, on this share. Just admit, you are speculating.


I'm only willing to sell when I've doubled my money!

Now at 1.50.. Steady approaching its fair value of 0.00

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly That's true. How's your favorite airline doing? KQ unlike HAFR has negative equity.
*I have no HAFR, I do not intend to buy HAFR, I do not recommend one buys HAFR*
As our police say," People have burnt to recognition "
From 25/- to Shilingi na sumuni.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Ati @guru and @Obiero have been burnt to recognition!!??

He he he!

All the victims died on the spot. The survivors were taken to hospital!!

That's the Kenyan Police for you!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#787 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 7:13:33 PM
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KQ & HAL are worlds apart. Even wit negative equity KQ shall prevail into the future. Lets share more on Friday jioni, after the AGM

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#788 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2015 8:01:10 PM
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obiero wrote:
KQ & HAL are worlds apart. Even wit negative equity KQ shall prevail into the future. Lets share more on Friday jioni, after the AGM


@Obiero no need to compare your wife with @Guru's husband. To each his/her own.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Sam_Kibs
#789 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 1:59:51 PM
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Merciless World (Dunia haina Huruma)- Ask HAFR

IPO =12
Current price = 1.5 not forgetting some jumped in at 25/- Serikali tafadhali.
“It’s no good, it’s no good!” says the buyer—
then goes off and boasts about the purchase-Proverbs 20:14
dunkang
#790 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:41:00 PM
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Those that got greedy on this one when we were all fearful have their greed to blame.

Any keen investor would have realised this was a monkey from the word go. One of the hundreds of indicators was their refusal to release the IM until the last minute of listing.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

obiero
#791 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:41:49 PM
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Sam_Kibs wrote:
Merciless World (Dunia haina Huruma)- Ask HAFR

IPO =12
Current price = 1.5 not forgetting some jumped in at 25/- Serikali tafadhali.

There is no other share in the past 24months that has slid as much.. I warned people that this one would go burst. Its only that CMA is weak, otherwise a delisting/suspension should have already occured. A very bandia firm

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Sam_Kibs
#792 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:16:01 PM
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but honestly asking what's the value of the share? is it worth NIL? somebody help here.
“It’s no good, it’s no good!” says the buyer—
then goes off and boasts about the purchase-Proverbs 20:14
muandiwambeu
#793 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 3:28:06 PM
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Nse cinema continues shortly. Its like a playscript if not a video clip. If imbuga was an investor at nse he would have coined such characters as jasper as an investor with unconsistent behaviour, now touting chums to k2girls and next selling his hse coz elnino has been delayed or the give has bolted with everything. and such other phrases as betrayal in nse or kq or more engimatically as betrayal in HAFR.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
VituVingiSana
#794 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:28:37 PM
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obiero wrote:
KQ & HAL are worlds apart. Even wit negative equity KQ shall prevail into the future. Lets share more on Friday jioni, after the AGM

The pot calling the kettle black. Let me stay with my KK & KenRe.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
streetwise
#795 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 4:15:33 PM
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HAFR ( Home africa)

I see HAFR at 1.55 today. Is this real and what can make a real estate co go that way ? or was the IPO over priced.
Boris Boyka
#796 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 5:08:57 PM
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streetwise wrote:
HAFR ( Home africa)

I see HAFR at 1.55 today. Is this real and what can make a real estate co go that way ? or was the IPO over priced.

Previously touched 1.50/- As it's put. HAFR was and still is a bandia firm! Its value can't be ascertained. Purely based on hope not business.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
sparkly
#797 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 5:14:08 PM
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streetwise wrote:
HAFR ( Home africa)

I see HAFR at 1.55 today. Is this real and what can make a real estate co go that way ? or was the IPO over priced.


Listen to Wazuans when they value the co. at 80cts a share.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#798 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 8:08:03 PM
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sparkly wrote:
streetwise wrote:
HAFR ( Home africa)

I see HAFR at 1.55 today. Is this real and what can make a real estate co go that way ? or was the IPO over priced.


Listen to Wazuans when they value the co. at 80cts a share.

Its not worth 80cts. It should be delisted.. I can opt for some at KES 0.00, implying no capital outlay. They bought the lakeview heights land on a slope greater than 40% in angle. Can u imagine? 40% slope! Hata handbrake ya Land Rover haiwezi shika

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#799 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:54:03 AM
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obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
streetwise wrote:
HAFR ( Home africa)

I see HAFR at 1.55 today. Is this real and what can make a real estate co go that way ? or was the IPO over priced.


Listen to Wazuans when they value the co. at 80cts a share.

Its not worth 80cts. It should be delisted.. I can opt for some at KES 0.00, implying no capital outlay. They bought the lakeview heights land on a slope greater than 40% in angle. Can u imagine? 40% slope! Hata handbrake ya Land Rover haiwezi shika


For firms like Home Afrika and KQ, you get a better return as a debt holder than an equity holder. After HAL failed to issue a 900m bond at 13.5% they turned to the bankers for 500m loans. In this high interest rate regime, some banker must be earning 25% secured return while the shareholder is earning ulcers galore.
Life is short. Live passionately.
itz
#800 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:10:07 PM
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@obiero good info there on what kind of land they bought in Kisumu.its amazing that the other company associated with one of the directors seems to be doing well.I wonder what Hass Consult see together with the big Middle East investor because they are in at a higher price.Is this company a potential candidate to be taken private or do they have too much debt compared to assets?Their plots at migaa sell at a very high premium
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