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doubletap
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:05:40 PM
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During a bull run bonds tend to be lucrative right? So, is it the right time to jump in? and what would it be t-bill 91, 182, or 364 day or bonds 2yr and more?

What does one consider or take into consideration?
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nashx
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 27, 2015 2:03:05 PM
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91 day t-bill is the best choice or try Pan Africa unit trust Pesa+ has an effective rate of 15%
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 3:38:57 PM
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Am really not conversant with T-bills. Someone advise with current dollar rate shooting high, is it advisable to invest in 91 day T-bills?
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alutacontinua
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:38:22 PM
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After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%
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#5 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:12:45 AM
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alutacontinua wrote:
After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%


I thought the tbill rate was determined through competitive bidding
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muganda
#6 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:09:05 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
alutacontinua wrote:
After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%


I thought the tbill rate was determined through competitive bidding


Indeed, even CBK governor feels these are ignorant rumors...
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Impunity
#7 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:45:02 PM
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Rates are now pointing NORTH...thanks to UK and his Jubilee Gaamaent!
14.4% for 91 day, 14.5% for 182 and 16.3% for 365!
Time to be LIQUID.

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Elephant Man
#8 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 7:41:04 PM
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Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...
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hisah
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:21:00 PM
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Elephant Man wrote:
Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...

The yield curve is inverting faster than I thought! Not a good signal for equities.

@kizee1, what's up in the liquidity side. What's sucking up this liquidity? The rates are too high for the short end! Why the liquidity distress?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Liv
#10 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:26:08 PM
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Elephant Man wrote:
Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...



Wow wow wow......

How long can we sustain such high rates?
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maka
#11 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 7:36:30 AM
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Liv wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...



Wow wow wow......

How long can we sustain such high rates?


Very good...
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KulaRaha
#12 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 7:41:43 AM
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Overnight rates are at 26%. Total meltdown!!!
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Chaka
#13 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:06:33 AM
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Liv wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...



Wow wow wow......

How long can we sustain such high rates?

Did investors conspire to set minimum/reserve 'prices'?
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mlennyma
#14 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:07:17 AM
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alutacontinua wrote:
After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%

is it real 18% in 3months?I should be heading to central bank to load my cds
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hisah
#15 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:15:39 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
alutacontinua wrote:
After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%

is it real 18% in 3months?I should be heading to central bank to load my cds

18% pa. That's 4.5% per quarter!

Do banks still have fixed deposits in this environment? CBK is sucking up liquidity like a blackhole!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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mlennyma
#16 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:18:18 AM
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Equities and t-bills push on different directions,I expect stocks to dip seriously should this trend continue
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mlennyma
#17 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:19:40 AM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
alutacontinua wrote:
After yesterdays CBK meeting with commercial banks 91 day could be offered at 18%

is it real 18% in 3months?I should be heading to central bank to load my cds

18% pa. That's 4.5% per quarter!

Do banks still have fixed deposits in this environment? CBK is sucking up liquidity like a blackhole!

thanks
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Mkimwa
#18 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:28:47 AM
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"The market weighted average rate was 18.362 %, and the weighted average of accepted bids which will be applied for non-competitive bids was 18.607% up from 14.486% in the previous auction. "

Did the CBK reject bids with lower rates, else how can the average of the accepted bids be higher that the marked weighted average rate?
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KulaRaha
#19 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52:14 AM
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Time to print money.......
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Impunity
#20 Posted : Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40:07 AM
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Elephant Man wrote:
Treasury Bill results for value date 28/9/2015 - 91 day 18.607%, 182 day 14.551% and 364 day is 16.301%. One year bond with same value date issued at par with yield of 19.062%.

Let's see what effect this will have on equities going forward...


WHAT!!!??????????

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